WI & Who They Will Honor, NM Drops MN, NC Changes Coming, Image

[Gary Slider]

Wisconsin will be Shall Issue on 11/1/11 and those with a permit/license from the following states can carry in Wisconsin. Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Washington, Wyoming, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands.

WI DOJ did not allow any applications until 11/1/11 so it can be up to 45 days for the first permit/licenses to be issued. DOJ has 45 days to issue Permit/Licenses applied for in the first 30 days and after December 1 they have 21 days to issue the Permit/License.

New Mexico DPS has removed Minnesota from the list of states it honored. They told me via email that they are still checking with Minnesota. Will have to wait and see on that. NM always has been slow about updating anything on their website and seems slow at doing anything.

On 12/1/11 North Carolina’s new law goes into effect. They will honor all other states permit/licenses at that time. The new law allows carry in State Parks and removes Financial Institutions as a place off limits in the law. They have also added specific Parking Lot Possession Laws. They are very specific and you need to read the NC page at www.handgunlaw.us and check the NC AG’s FAQ’s etc for more info on their parking lot storage laws.

I am still hearing that Michigan and Maine are talking about reciprocity. Louisiana has informed me that New Mexico has contacted them. So things are looking up even though NM removed MN from their list.

I am hearing that Idaho has changed their format for their Licenses to Carry Concealed Weapons. If they have Handgunlaw.us would like to have a scan of the new format. Handgunlaw.us is still looking for Images of The following: PI’s Permit to Carry in Hawaii, Guam Registration Card and or Permit to Carry, Puerto Rico Permit/License or Registration Card and U.S. Virgin Islands Permit/License to Carry and/or their Registration Card. If you redact info on the Permit/License if you would Please leave at least One Capitol Letter, One Lower Case Letter, and at least one number in each line so I know the font used and the font size. A description of each line would be greatly appreciated. Like the Permit/License # is in this format AA243566 or 342565A showing the number of letters and numbers. Same with the name/Address/etc in all caps or what is in all caps etc. Back ground images on the permit/license are the hardest things to rebuild. I completely rebuild the image using my name and change all items so that no one can gather any useful information from them.

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[rjrivero]

Gary,

Any reasoning why Wisconsin wouldn't recognize OHIO permits? The training they're requiring is fewer hours than required in Ohio.

 

[Gary Slider]

I don't know why. There is no rhyme or reason to me on the states they listed and the ones they left off. The way their law is written I thought they would list about 40 states. WI Law says if they run a NICS check on their applicants WI would honor it. But the DPS wrote some strange Administration rules on the training that got some people mad. But we will just have to wait and see. They may have just posted what they had and have not had time to check all the states yet. That is what I am hoping for. Sorry I can't give you a better answer.

 

[RatDrall]

I don't know why. There is no rhyme or reason to me on the states they listed and the ones they left off.

They only recognize states that do BOTH a NICS check and a criminal history check.

WI does both checks everytime their residents buy a handgun, and impose a 48 hour waiting period that can be extended another week if they feel like it.

Florida and Ohio only do a NICS check, so they are off the list.

 

[usmarine0352_2005]

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Why is New Mexico dropping Minnesota?

 

[wildbilll]

Isn't a NICS check a criminal history check, in the scope of determining if someone has a criminal history that prevents gun ownership?
They have Pennsylvainia on the list, if that one qualifies, everything should qualify.

 

[Michael R.]

i hate living in illinois...:banghead:

 

[RatDrall]

Isn't a NICS check a criminal history check, in the scope of determining if someone has a criminal history that prevents gun ownership?

NICS is a Federal level background check. Apparently, not all records make it to the Federal level.

WI, and many other states, do a state or even local level criminal history search in addition to the NICS check.

 

[Monkeyleg]

That WI list steams me. I worked my tail off for five years to help get a bill passed, and the bill was written so that WI would have reciprocity with all issuing states.

Now I'm in AL, and neither my AL or FL permit are good there.

 

[Fisherman_48768]

Wiscons recognizes ""

http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/ConcealedCarry/ConcealedCarry.asp

Out-of-state Licenses Recognized in Wisconsin
Licensees from any of the listed states will be recognized in Wisconsin as an out-of-state licensee per Sec. 175.60 (1)(g) Wis. Stats. This was determined based on the statutory requirement in s. 165.25 (12) that the listed state requires, or designates that the holder chose to submit, to a background search that is comparable to Wisconsin’s background check in s. 175.60 (1)(ac). Wisconsin’s background check includes only two components (1) A criminal history record search; (2) A search of the national instant criminal background check system (NICS). If another states background check meets the same requirements a Wisconsin resident must meet, the DOJ has recognized that state. The DOJ has tried to be as inclusive as possible and will periodically check and update the list if other states can be added. This list is current as of 10/18/11:

Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Washington, Wyoming, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands

 

[Gary Slider]

I talked to Louisiana and they stated that Wisconsin had contacted them requesting info on their laws and wanting reciprocity. It may be that the states not listed have not gotten back with them yet. This is what makes the most sense to me. I believe that WI will add more states as they are contacted by the other states. I do know a few states are very slow at responding to anyone.

NM states it is looking at all the states they honored without an agreement and is trying to get agreements. They told me they were still talking to MN but they removed them from the list. That is all I know about them dropping MN. Sorry I don't have more info.

 

[bearcreek]

i hate living in illinois...:banghead:

Move.

 

[hermannr]

WA does not have any "training" requirement, but WI will recognize WA, so training isn't the issue. WA does have an independent (from the NCIS) Mental health and local criminal background check for a CPL thou.

We also have a Pro-carry AG so he probably got back to WI as soon as the request was received.

I haven't seen WI added to the WA regognized list yet, but I would expect it to be soon after WI beings to issue permits.

 

[Monkeyleg]

I called the WI DOJ today, and the woman I spoke with said they just received the required information from Florida, much later than other states. She said that because Florida's background checks are so much more stringent than other states (fingerprints, FBI NCI check rather than NICS), she doesn't see a reason why FL won't be on the list.

That's good news. I can't see anything in the WI law that addresses non-resident vs. resident permits, so FL permits should be good to go.

 

[Gary Slider]

Heard back from two more states that are looking at Wisconsin. Montana will most likely honor Wisconsin. New Mexico is looking also. I have heard more from New Mexico in the last month than I have in the last 10 years. But do believe that WI will add more states as they have not heard back from all the states on their inquiries about their laws etc. When they do hear back they will then make the decision on honoring them or not but again I think the WI list will grow.

 

[usmarine0352_2005]

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Once again, anyone find out why New Mexico are dropping MN?.

 

[Gary Slider]

NM Told me they were still checking with MN but removed them from their list. MN Is the only state they removed.

 

[Gary Slider]

Just as I thought. WI has added Montana and Montana and Pennsylvania have added Wisconsin to their lists. I think there will be many more additions to the WI list as the states contact WI letting them know exactly what their laws state.