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[SIZE=4][B][URL='https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?members/corpral_agarn.195091/']Corpral_Agarn[/URL] said:
Will lever action rifles become the new AR's?
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LimaCharlie
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high country
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It seems to me that one of the big advantages the AR has over most other semi auto designs is the front locking bolt, like a modern bolt action. The slop inherent in a bolt that locks at the rear puts AKs and traditional lever actions like the M92 or 336 at a disadvantage accuracy wise. There may be some oddball lever that has a rotating bolt that locks at the front, but I am not aware of it.
The rise in popularity of the AR is likely attributable in some part to the accuracy. It can fill a wide variety of roles because it can be light and compact, yet still capable of longer range accuracy. As much as I enjoy my lever actions, they will never compete with my bolt actions or AR pattern rifles once the target starts getting further away.
Also, the AR excels at modularity, allowing the user to make it their own depending on the use, etc. The lever action is about the least "modular" rifle out there. Even putting a scope on some models is a challenge to do well.
The rise in popularity of the AR is likely attributable in some part to the accuracy. It can fill a wide variety of roles because it can be light and compact, yet still capable of longer range accuracy. As much as I enjoy my lever actions, they will never compete with my bolt actions or AR pattern rifles once the target starts getting further away.
Also, the AR excels at modularity, allowing the user to make it their own depending on the use, etc. The lever action is about the least "modular" rifle out there. Even putting a scope on some models is a challenge to do well.
Ignition Override
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“They come to our village and they Take our Corn”.
In this case, yes.
If we were Not in Oxford England right now, I would be able to Copy/Paste images of Steve McQueen and Yul Brynner, for the imaginitive.
In this case, yes.
If we were Not in Oxford England right now, I would be able to Copy/Paste images of Steve McQueen and Yul Brynner, for the imaginitive.
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Perhaps the best answer comes from looking back at history. Lever guns once were the "ARs" of their time in terms of popularity. Semi-autos, particularly ARs haven't been all that popular until more recent times. I'm not all that old, and I lived to see semi-autos become a thing.
Lever guns have already been there and done that. There is a clue of what might happen in the very highly unlikely event that semi-autos like AKs and ARs are ever outlawed.
Lever guns have already been there and done that. There is a clue of what might happen in the very highly unlikely event that semi-autos like AKs and ARs are ever outlawed.
Too many people have missed the premise of the OP's question, and should go back, read it again, and then edit their answers. And who knows? Out here in the wild wild west of the Interweb, the OP may have missed the premise of his own question. He might want to go back and read it again. See if it could be worded better.
Armored farmer
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I have always been a lever action guy. I have ARs but the don't appeal to me like a classic levergun.
I am also a fan of 7.62x39. Why not try a new caliber. Diversity isn't a bad thing in these times.
I am also a fan of 7.62x39. Why not try a new caliber. Diversity isn't a bad thing in these times.
DeepSouth
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I think if they ever manage to get (ban) the most common and popular rifle in the US the others want be be far behind, at all.
Therefore, I think one shouldn’t really consider possible future political climates/consequences and should simply buy what they want.
But thats just me. If someone wants to buy something to “hedge” against some potential scenario, then that’s what they should do. However futile I believe it to be.
Why not? I say both reasons are good reasons. Any reason is suitable for a new gun.
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This government would be in a world of hurt if the constitution abiding citizens coalesced and formed a resistance against tyranny.
Remember the government doesn’t create anything the people do. Insurgency tactics are a real thing, a government inflicting self-pain on its infrastructure to quell its citizenry with what little law enforcement, military, etc that follows its tyrannical orders will have its work cut out.
The main problem that is difficult is the death by a thousand cuts, they are taking bites out of our freedoms, painting us into a corner day by day. If the American patriot continues to allow this for the foreseeable future that is where our abilities to mount a resistance to tyranny start to become more difficult.
It’s all the people who look at the current government in the lens of, well we have it better than most countries, or the government telling me I can or can’t do this or that is no big deal is the problem.
We need to get back to looking at our unalienable rights, endowed by not the government but our Creator. Until we all look back and see how far we’ve come on the road of tyranny from our founding and not in comparison to the other countries in tyranny, and do something about it; than the American experiment is finished.
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Ummm…AK’s do lock towards the front of the bolt, not much behind an AR.
Choctaw
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I April I bought three Rossi R92s and one PSA AK. However,
I dunno. We seem to have problems with rice farmers and goat herders.
I dunno. We seem to have problems with rice farmers and goat herders.
marksman13
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Na. Lever guns are the old AR…
CraigC
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If I wanted an AK, I'd get one, regardless of what Nostradamus said.
I've been very happy with my forged PSA and bought one for Dad too. Now I want the 9mm version.
I've been very happy with my forged PSA and bought one for Dad too. Now I want the 9mm version.
Jimfern
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There's a whole industry of folks making parts to make your lever action tacti-cool. It's not my cup o' tea but maybe some of it is practical for some applications.
https://www.pinterest.com/mike4087/lever-action/
doubleh
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The simple fact is that the anti gun crowd will never be satisfied until no one has a gun but the government. ARs now, levers next, and right on down to the last single shot and that will be the end gate of any though of freedom in this country. Look up photos of East Germany when the wall fell to see how you will be living.
chicharrones
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Depends on a person's situation, right?
If I was a new shooter with no long guns, money for only one gun, and I wasn't a hunter, I'd pick what I think may become unobtainium first. This thread implies that the lever gun will be around for civilian purchase long after a detachable magazine semi-auto rifle would be.
Charlie Martinez
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Unfortunately for all of us this guy knows what he's talking about. I agree 100%
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"Multi caliber" lower receivers are the new AR. It's not an assault weapon. It's not even a semi automatic. It's not even a rifle.
It’s both a wise and correct opinion.
As to the OP – there’s no political will in Washington for a new AWB.
And state level bans will likely be overturned by the end of this decade.
Continue to buy and enjoy AKs and ARs; buy a lever action because you want one.
My opinion is it does not matter what gun you have, even single shots and muzzle loaders. They are all at risk from the left.
If you want to shoot a lever gun for some reason, go ahead and buy one. But, there is no guarantee you will be able to keep it legally anymore than any other firearm.
If you want to shoot a lever gun for some reason, go ahead and buy one. But, there is no guarantee you will be able to keep it legally anymore than any other firearm.
