Will "the panic" end before 2016?
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It will end well before that. Right now people are buying ammo just to stockpile/hoard, they won't keep it up for much longer. I bet in another 3-6 months depending on the status of importing ammo we'll see it get back to semi-normal.
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MrTwigg
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If you think it's bad now, wait till Hillary says she'll run. 
OilyPablo
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The press is already drooling for that.
Please don't run another old white fool against her! We need a younger, wiser, sharper..........oh forget it.......she's just the old communist this country needs.
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The tide appears to have peaked already around here. There is getting to be ammo on shelves, and reloading components and handguns available again. Online retailers seem to have more stock too. I just cancelled an order for bullets from one company that was still four weeks out till shipping. This because I got the same bullets in 4 days from another online retailer. Lady told me when I called it has been happening a lot. Hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel.
I agree, the tide is already turning in my area as well.
Now, proceed to wait for all the posts that will say the end of the world is coming, so they can attempt to justify hoarding, paying ridiculous prices and throwing away countless hours getting up early to wait outside of some big box store to score a box of 9mm.
Now, proceed to wait for all the posts that will say the end of the world is coming, so they can attempt to justify hoarding, paying ridiculous prices and throwing away countless hours getting up early to wait outside of some big box store to score a box of 9mm.
Well the shortage hasn't been going on since 2008. It happened once then but for years there has been cases upon cases readily available, this recent shortage has only been going for a few months. In December there was still plenty of every caliber to be had so this isn't a 4 year long crisis.
If things go the same as '09, we'll be good to go.
After things settled down, I purchased a new AR from Spikes for $710 and cases of .223 steel case went back down to $200.
It will depends on what happens in November, 2014.
Kayaker 1960
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A short time after the Aurora, Co. shooting I was at a LGS, looking at a handgun while the owner was telling me that I should buy one of his way over priced AR's before they are banned. I get a mental image of him rubbing his greedy little rat like hands together every time something like that happens. I haven't been back since, I bought the handgun from someone else.
I was at a gun show in the Salt Lake City area yesterday and there was a fair amount of ammo still there when I arrived in the afternoon (though no real supply of .22LR that I could see). The prices weren't at pre-panic levels, but they weren't horrific either.
I hope that the market is getting saturated. I want to be able to grab a 525 bulk pack of .22LR if/when I want to and do so at about $20.
I hope that the market is getting saturated. I want to be able to grab a 525 bulk pack of .22LR if/when I want to and do so at about $20.
DNS
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Nope, no change here but last time we were tail end Charlie for re-supply.
As long as there's a liberal in office I suspect we'll keep having these waves of panic.
As long as there's a liberal in office I suspect we'll keep having these waves of panic.
InkEd
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It will depend on the AWB votes in the Senate. If everything is struck down before reaching the House of Representatives things will calm down in another 12-18 months. I think it will take that long because of all the backorders that still have to get filled. (I still have some backorders with July or later ETAs for delivery.) Furthermore, it will take a while for people to readjust back to the idea that it will be possible to just get some ammo like normal at the store or place an order online and actually get it delivered quickly.
When the next election rolls around the Democrats will probably run Hillary. She will be a strong candidate and potentially win. If she even gets the nod to run, people should plan to see another shortage of this scale or more. (You know she's a power player when people don't even need to give her last name.) The republican party needs to start searching/grooming a real powerhouse candidate (with widespread appeal) to even stand a chance of winning the election. As of now, I can't think of a REAL challenger to go against Hillary.
Currently, Walmart and Bass Pro are still completely sold out of ammo with ZERO signs of letting up) and LGS still getting FULL panic prices on ammo for the meager quantities available. A small selection of defensive carbines are showing up but priced at MSRP (or better) depending on the brand and store.
The only real positive thing I've seen is that prices appear to have reached their threshold on things and start to slowly come down. However, I would expect to see places maintain a 10-15% increase over the pre-panic prices as the new "normal" price.
When the next election rolls around the Democrats will probably run Hillary. She will be a strong candidate and potentially win. If she even gets the nod to run, people should plan to see another shortage of this scale or more. (You know she's a power player when people don't even need to give her last name.) The republican party needs to start searching/grooming a real powerhouse candidate (with widespread appeal) to even stand a chance of winning the election. As of now, I can't think of a REAL challenger to go against Hillary.
Currently, Walmart and Bass Pro are still completely sold out of ammo with ZERO signs of letting up) and LGS still getting FULL panic prices on ammo for the meager quantities available. A small selection of defensive carbines are showing up but priced at MSRP (or better) depending on the brand and store.
The only real positive thing I've seen is that prices appear to have reached their threshold on things and start to slowly come down. However, I would expect to see places maintain a 10-15% increase over the pre-panic prices as the new "normal" price.
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^this is how it usually goes, give or take.
The gun prices will hover around the 10-15% markup simply because of inflation and so on and so forth, and finite supplies for certain guns like Bloc AKs will possibly see those kinds of guns never come down in price at all.
The gun prices will hover around the 10-15% markup simply because of inflation and so on and so forth, and finite supplies for certain guns like Bloc AKs will possibly see those kinds of guns never come down in price at all.
InkEd
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If we could get the Norinco ban lifted, prices and supply would go back to pre-panic conditions in a matter of weeks. Look up the availability and cost of their stuff on some Canadian sites.
Nornico and other Chinese ammo is Chinese stuff I wouldn't mind having too much of It can't be any worse than Brown Bear... I just bought a can or 5.45x 39 and plan on buying a can every month or every other month... it's almost cheaper than shooting .22lr now... hopefully the Russian stuff will never be banned.
I can only see higher ammo prices as dollar devaluates even further bec of our national debt crisis God knows what. Then theres always the uncertainty in global markets as Iran and Korea looms on the horizon.
The biggest kicker would be Hillary Clinton running for office, and that s even a much bigger hurdle. She is bound to enact more gun control laws (if elected) the likes of her husband.
The biggest kicker would be Hillary Clinton running for office, and that s even a much bigger hurdle. She is bound to enact more gun control laws (if elected) the likes of her husband.
223/556 is back on shelves locally. still expensive and $1/rnd
AR's on the rack, again a bit more than they were before panic hit.
I think for the most part the panic is over and eventually see the prices drop. probably not to the level they were but a bit more reasonable.
AR's on the rack, again a bit more than they were before panic hit.
I think for the most part the panic is over and eventually see the prices drop. probably not to the level they were but a bit more reasonable.
22-rimfire
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The excessive buying can not last, but it will continue for another few months as the people who simply were caught without any or new gun buyers begin to buy ammunition. Remember, they will have direct experience with this current shortage and their buying will reflect that. It's easy for us (me included) to say that I remember 2008 and stocked up... but new shooters have not had the opportunity to do that as of yet.
I still am not convinced that there are a lot of new shooters... just old shooters adding more to the pile.
I still am not convinced that there are a lot of new shooters... just old shooters adding more to the pile.
22-rimfire
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If the US passed the NY or CT law nationally, I still see no reason for the ammunition shortage to continue.
There will be another Democrat in the white house, but I do not think it will be HRC.If you think it's bad now, wait till Hillary says she'll run.
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