Will you buy a CA micro-stamp pistol in 2010?

[K-Romulus]

NJ already on the ball

http://blog.nj.com/njv_mark_diionno/2007/10/the_crime_prevention_strategie.html

AG takes off gloves to show iron fist on guns
Posted by Mark DiIonno October 13, 2007 1:48PM
Categories: Law & Order

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She also is looking for stricter ammunition-sales rules and harsher penalties for people who violate them. Also in the works is a micro-chipping law, which would require all guns sold in New Jersey by Jan. 1, 2010 to include tracking technology that would transfer the gun's serial number to every casing fired.

 

[foghornl]

this micro-stamp as proposed...firing-pin only, or some sort of markings in the chamber to put s/n on the side of the case?


Back to the regularly scheduled thread.....

No, I absolutely refuse to buy a "micro-stamp" gun...I rank that right up there with the "smart gun" stuff...

Horse Hockey

 

[shield20]

I wouldn't buy one. There are enough technologically successful gun models out there so that I do not to have to droolingly look forward some new model that just happens to also come with micro-stamping because it has to.

The bill says only "NEWLY DESIGNED" MODELS not already CA approved would need this crap. Just like built in key-lock safeties, I will avoid it.

for specifics...
http://www.bradycampaign.org/chapters/california/
http://www.bradycampaign.org/chapters/california/ab1471faqs.pdf

 

[Noban]

I predict that in CA, any one holding a CCW after 2010 will have to carry one of these tinkertoy guns, disallowing use of their "unsafe" handguns. So, if you want to carry, you'll have to either buy one or go with a revolver.

Kev

 

[BobMcG]

No, due mainly to my not living in CA. If it were to spread nation wide? Well, I have enough pre-bans now to make me happy and I'll just have to buy a few more over the next few years to make me even happier I guess. I can't say for a fact that I'd never buy one, I just don't think there'll be much of a pressing need to do so. IF by some chance I did end up owning one, you could be assured that I'd do my very best to never leave my brass around for someone else to get their hands on. Just what one would need would be for your brass to end up at the scene of a crime somewhere.

AND: It's probably a safe bet to say that if not now, there'll be laws saying that you cannot legally defeat the micro-stamping on weapons manufactured with the feature. Doesn't mean people won't won't try to circumvent the system through many ways and using every excuse in the book but it won't likely be done legally.

 

[shield20]

Hmmm..which gets me thinking...IF the manufacturers again think this is the way of the furture, they just may start building this into new models as they are designed/set-up, and ALL of us may "not have a choice" if we want the latest and greatest model from say HK or Taurus (who seem to come out with new stuff all the time). Would they offer the same gun in both CA-compatible and non-CA compatible versions? It has happenned before with "assault gun" features..but firing pins??

 

[lance22]

Absolutely not.

 

[plexreticle]

I wouldn't by one but if for some reason I had one I would dremmel the micro out of it.

 

[Hawk]

I predict that in CA, any one holding a CCW after 2010 will have to carry one of these tinkertoy guns, disallowing use of their "unsafe" handguns. So, if you want to carry, you'll have to buy one.

...or a revolver. I believe magazine capacities are already restricted in the occurpied territories so going from 10 of something to 7 of .357 magnum might be attractive to some.

Too bad my irony-steeped fantasies never come to pass: my new favorite is Cobra and Hi-Point joint venturing on the stamping and carrying it off for little to no extra.

I don't have anything against Cobra or Hi-Point but I somehow doubt the California legislature would share my inclusive attitude as C-9s and Pat .45s take over the California civilian semi-auto market.

New Jersey wants microstamping? Clearly, they're not irony challenged. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the state that mandated "smart guns" three years after the technology was proven and funds NJIT's attempts at such? The same group that inked a deal with Metalstorm?

So, unless I miss my guess, NJ is simultaneously calling for microstamping while looking at incorporating caseless ammo into their "smart gun"? Rich.

I guess we can derive some small comfort from the observation that NJIT is patterning their "smart gun" press releases on the examples provided by Ruger with the Gold Label and STI with the Texican. Myself, I'd rather see the grant money going to Ruger and STI, but this would clearly be a minority view in the garden state.

 

[benEzra]

I personally wouldn't want to own a gun that would spit serial-numbered brass all over the place, for anybody to pick up, every time I took it to the range. It would be quite easy for them to end up planted at a crime scene, IMHO.

 

[Boomerang]

What about if the gun fires out of battery because the stamp blocks the round? Or if you get a pierced primer from the pin? Who pays when it blows up on you?

I'll boycott any company that sells them.

 

[dm1333]

Nope!

If Uncle Sugar ever stations me in CA again I will enjoy the back packing, surfing and great weather. I will not buy a gun there.

 

[shooter94]

No go...

9th Circuit Court of appeals ruled in favor of the "National guard" argument. California has no provision in it's Constitution for the private ownership of firearms.

The legal basis for a mass confiscation is there.

 

[Green Lantern]

this micro-stamp as proposed...firing-pin only, or some sort of markings in the chamber to put s/n on the side of the case?

Read an article with an interview from the inventor of the tech. He says that it CAN'T be tampered with because

1) The firing pin in diamond-hard
2) Even IF the firing pin is ground down/replaced with an old one, there are "other" stamping devices in the gun.

 

[obxned]

I know a guy who says he will at that point buy all his handguns from the same sources as the bad guys - no paper work and no micro-BS. Obviously, I would never do that!

 

[packnrat]

why should i there are way to many old pistols out there just itching to be in one of my gun racks.

 

[plexreticle]

I bet i could tamper with it.

 

[RubenZ]

I blame Californian's for this because they are too weak to stick up to their own government. I mean surely the majority of Californian's can't actually support the crap that comes out of that state.

 

[jungleroy]

I Don't think i will be buying any fancy, untested unlikely to work, microstamper gun. I am glad I don't live in California. For everyone who lives there we should have some sort of support group to help place them in good communities when they decide to move away from California.
Just a thought really.
Personally I would be thrilled to live in a community where I know my neighbors are armed and competent.
Really if building a gun with working microstamping is impossible, that would be a back door way of banning semi auto pistols, wherever the law is in effect.

 

[crazed_ss]

Why would I buy a Microstamp handgun when I could just buy one of the 1316 models already certified?