I would like to use Win 760 in my Sako 223 with 24" barrel. Has anyone had any experience with this powder for range and hunting. I'm using 52-53 HPBT.
win760 for 223.
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ArchAngelCD
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IMO W760 is too slow a powder for use in the .223. I don't think Hodgdon even lists data for that combination. W748 is more in the burn rate range for the .223 and a possible powder choice. IMO W748 is even a bit slow too. H335, H322, IMR3031 and on the slower end Varget and BL-C2 would be better choices...
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You might find a load in an older manual. My load for a 222 using 70 gr. bullets uses a compressed load of Win. 760/H414 and works great even on deer. There isn't any reason it shouldn't work in a 223 though it might be better with heavier bullets than what you plan on using.
W760 is too slow burning to use in the 223, especially with the lighter bullets. You'll not get a clean burn and the case will not obturate enough to seal the chamber, resulting in a sooty case.
It won't burn clean in a 22-250 from first hand experience.
NCsmitty
It won't burn clean in a 22-250 from first hand experience.
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Grumulkin
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Yea, you'll get a clean burn in a 223 case because I've tried it though only with 70 gr. bullets. I didn't find it to be the best powder for that application but it worked OK.
W-760 is most definitely too slow a powder for the .223.
But even more so with 52 - 53 grain light bullet loads.
Hodgdon/Winchester who sells it doesn't even list it used with any bullet weight in .223.
Neither does Lyman, or Speer, or Hornady.
What you need is W-748 for your loads if you want to use Winchester powder.
rc
But even more so with 52 - 53 grain light bullet loads.
Hodgdon/Winchester who sells it doesn't even list it used with any bullet weight in .223.
Neither does Lyman, or Speer, or Hornady.
What you need is W-748 for your loads if you want to use Winchester powder.
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Where in the world do you guys come up with the wisdom that Winchester 760 is too slow for the 223 Remington? While probably not optimal for the lighter bullets, tell me please, what would be hurt using it?
For a 223 load for 70 grain bullets using Winchester 760 which is the same powder as H414, please go to page 205 of Speer's #14 reloading manual. There you will find that Speer, apparently unaware of internet wisdom, has a published load for this "too slow powder."
With Speer's 70 grain Semi Spitzers the starting dose of H414 is 26.0 grains with a published maximum of 28.0 grains. The velocity of this load, according to the Speer manual, beats every other of their powder selections for this bullet except for Winchester 748.
For a 223 load for 70 grain bullets using Winchester 760 which is the same powder as H414, please go to page 205 of Speer's #14 reloading manual. There you will find that Speer, apparently unaware of internet wisdom, has a published load for this "too slow powder."
With Speer's 70 grain Semi Spitzers the starting dose of H414 is 26.0 grains with a published maximum of 28.0 grains. The velocity of this load, according to the Speer manual, beats every other of their powder selections for this bullet except for Winchester 748.
Grumulkin, I respectfully agree that a case full of W760 will undoubtedly push a bullet out of a 223 barrel. That's not the issue.
I'm sure that you will agree that pushing a light bullet using W760, which the OP intends to use, is marginal at best.
There are at least a dozen different powders that will give optimum performance in the 223, but not W760/H414.
The OP is certainly entitled to use the components that he is questioning, and find out on his own, the wisdom of that choice.
NCsmitty
I'm sure that you will agree that pushing a light bullet using W760, which the OP intends to use, is marginal at best.
There are at least a dozen different powders that will give optimum performance in the 223, but not W760/H414.
The OP is certainly entitled to use the components that he is questioning, and find out on his own, the wisdom of that choice.
NCsmitty
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H414 is one of my favorite powders for my 308, 30-06, 303 British but I don't use if for 223 since there are better powders available for me... Tac, H335, BLC2, Varget, and etc...
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