Winchester White Box stories you have heard....

[CDignition]

What are your silly "Gunstore Clerk" Stories regarding this ammo... I know that it is cheaper bulk ammo, and not match grade by any means, but I have shot thousands of rounds of this stuff with not much trouble.

I was at the range last week, and talking about the reload range ammo they have, it is priced about the same as WWB ammo. One guy that works there sez "WWB fails 2 quality control checks, thats why it is in that white box". HE was dead serious...I told him he was dead wrong, but he insisted. What a maroon,lol.

So I went to Win website and submitted this to them:

usa Brand ammo quality.

I have been told at more than one gunshop that Win USA Brand (Win White Box) is "In that white box because it failed 2 quality control checks" .

I just laughed at them. I have been in manufacturing for over 20 years, and just know this isnt true. What I need is some verification from Winchester about this, so I can show these morons how wrong they are.

Any Info you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

We shall see what they say.

 

[taliv]

i heard you can buy it at walmart.

 

[PPGMD]

I've heard the same thing of course, with exception of WWB 45 (accuracy issues might have been a bad batch) I have had no issues, and shoot WWB through all my guns.

I also put quite a bit of Federal Bulk Packs through my pea shooter. One advantage is that they are one of the few items actually made in the USA at Walmart.

 

[larry_minn]

Yrs ago (likely still) most shooters are using Win White box at GSSF matches. I would guess easy 70% use it. If you use reloads and have malfunction you time stands. Factory you get reshoot. (folks that use stock Glocks don't have any problem)

 

[SoCalShooter]

I heard it works great and shoots pretty decent groups from a kimber TLE/RL II at 25 yards.

 

[Warren]

Never had a problem with it on close targets. At longer ranges there seems to be a wide varience in round to round accuracy.

Sometimes, after shooting it I notice little red threads in my gun, anyone else notice this?

Some gunshop doods told me that was because the powder that goes into the WWB rounds is floor sweepings. You now all the stuff that missed whatever type of round they were loading at the time case and ended up on the floor? This stuff is recycled for use as WWB powder.

Even if this was true where do the threads come from? Is the factory floor carpeted? Are their work clothes really cheap and linty?

 

[yesit'sloaded]

A friend of mine had stovepipes all day long with a box of .40. He may have been limp wristing a bit or something but it jammed about 10 times in a box of 50. The gun has not done it since. He had been shooting that gun for a while so I'm thinking it might have been the ammo. Other than that no personal knowledge of any problems.

 

[Halo is for Kids]

This is WWB 115 grn:

 

[larry_minn]

If you shoot long enough you will find a bad rd from anyone. How in heck a backwards primer can wind up in (IIRC) A .45acp Hydro shock rd. I have seen sideways primers in STHP 9mm as well (WIN) These are both factory defensive rds. If you shoot enough you will find a junk rd that somehow made it past inspectors. (why you need to visually examine your ammo as you load mags.)

 

[joab]

i heard you can buy it at walmart.

heard you could only buy it at WalMart because it was factory second ammo to match their factory second guns

 

[Nil]

heard you could only buy it at WalMart because it was factory second ammo to match their factory second guns

I heard the guns sold at Walmart are made from old railroad ties and balsa wood.

 

[MD_Willington]

Railways ties, especially those they made in California, were made from babinga wood... railroad steel is good steel, they make T-posts for fencing and a whole lot of other quality metal parts from the steel...

 

[Hoppy590]

heard you could only buy it at WalMart because it was factory second ammo to match their factory second guns

ya, our walmart factory second 7mm rem magnum savage exploded and took out 2 city blocks. i was only spared becuse i was hiding behind a pile of Low low priced walmart stationary

 

[BamBam-31]

Never had a problem with it on close targets. At longer ranges there seems to be a wide varience in round to round accuracy.

This is my experience as well, which is why I no longer buy the stuff. American Eagle is not too much more in terms of price but more consistent in terms of accuracy. (Actually, WWB is pretty good. It's the 9mm stuff I avoid.)

 

[JKimball]

I really like it because of the price at Walmart, and I haven't really had any problems with it. I've probably put about 1200 rounds through my 9mm and had one FTF, and I don't know what caused that. It's been pretty accurate out to 25yds, but I couldn't even hit an 8.5 x 11 piece of paper at 50 yards. Again, I wasn't going to blame that on the ammo. Although I will say I can hit said paper at that distance with my CZ52 with military ammo and also with my .22 pistol using Federal bulk ammo. Haven't heard any horror stories about WWB.

 

[MisterPX]

Occasional Kaboom, heard from more than afew that you don't wanna run it in a MP5SD for some reason.

 

[CoinMan]

I recently bought an old Model 10, and have shot nothing through it but WWB - about 500 rounds and no probs other than being difficult to extract sometimes. I've never seen any red fibers, either.

I've been buying it at WalMart because it's convenient, but I feel like I'm getting ripped off somewhat at $25/100rds.

Have any .38spl shooters out there found it any cheaper than $.25 a pop?

 

[obxned]

I have shot many, many boxes of WWB Bulk-Pak in .380, 9mm, and .45. There has never been a problem at all. Accuracy seems pretty darn good - some ammo will shoot better than WWB, but some (even primium ammo) is a lot worse.

 

[evan price]

When I buy the 100-pack of 9mm I usually find 101 in it...

 

[jimbob1911]

100% inspections are only good 80% of the time. You have to build a system which produces quality consistently. Good ole american inspection processes. I wonder what kind of quality controls winchester implements and if they have a six sigma process or what.

 

[Onmilo]

For the love of sanity, don't mention six sigma!

 

[1911 guy]

I've got a picture Of Julie Goloski loading her mags from a bow of WWB. If you don't know, she's won the Grand Master title three years running now. I highly doubt she's using factory seconds in a $3,000 pistol in a match her sponsors are paying her to try very hard to win.

Edit to add: I've shot about eight or nine thousand rounds of this out of one pistol in the last two years. Not one misfire, deformed cartridge, squib load, etc. 100% good to go.

 

[CajunBass]

Other than on the internet, I've never heard anything about it. I say "Gimmie a box of Winchester White Box, in ........" The clerk says, "Here you are Sir." I pay and leave.

 

[GoRon]

I have run tens of thousands of 45acp rounds through my 1911's.

Don't recall any ammo related stoppages ever.

White box was my preferred ammo for years because it flat out worked in my guns all the time.

Now "Winclean" on the other hand...don't get me started...

 

[strat81]

Some gunshop doods told me that was because the powder that goes into the WWB rounds is floor sweepings. You now all the stuff that missed whatever type of round they were loading at the time case and ended up on the floor? This stuff is recycled for use as WWB powder.

Where do people come up with this stuff?

Now this is a guess, but I imagine that WWB is Winchester's #1 product (as an entire brand). Even if it's not #1, it's certainly popular. Can you imagine how much powder must be "spilled" to manufacture all of the WWB available? OSHA and the Fire Marshal would shut them down in the blink of an eye. Not to mention, Winchester is using better machinery than your average $50 powder measure from Midway.

WWB is very good ammo, especially for the price. The brass is great for reloading too!