With all this civil unrest have you considered making your car gun a carbine or SBR?

[M-Cameron]

i have a 4x4.....if i encounter a situation where i think i might need a carbine, im switching into reverse and running over anything that gets in my way.

if an SUV and a handgun cant get me out of trouble....well....i had no business being there in the first place.

 

[BSA1]

With all this civil unrest have you considered making your car gun a carbine or SBR?

No.

The civil unrest shown on TV are minor disturbances in a few large cities.

I grew up in the '60’s. That was the decade of large scale civil unrest. Mass demonstration involving thousands of citizens protesting the Vietnam War, equal rights for women and civil rights for minorities such as blacks.

In addition there were armed radical groups such as the SLA, the Weathermen and Black Panthers declaring war on the establishment.

i have a 4x4.....if i encounter a situation where i think i might need a carbine, im switching into reverse and running over anything that gets in my way.

if an SUV and a handgun cant get me out of trouble....well....i had no business being there in the first place.

Absolutely. The best weapon you have at your immediate disposal is your vehicle and the accelerator.

 

[Drail]

Assuming you make it to your vehicle and get it started. If you can make it to your vehicle and reach in it and retrieve an SBR or SBS you might have a chance against multiple attackers.

 

[RustyShackelford]

Vehicles, tear gas-smoke grenades....

1st: I've owned and drove a SUV for the last 2 years. I prefer SUVs or trucks over sedans-cars because you have a slightly elevated view and can see more-further down streets/roads or side streets.
This wider view gives me a peace of mind.
I'd add that if civil disorders or protests are a serious possibility I'd look into carrying smoke grenades or milspec type CS/CN canisters.
Note: I'm not sure if these devices or smoke grenades are legal. Check your area's laws or city ordinances. You don't want to create a fire hazard or burn a by-stander or yourself.

To me, I would not carry a select fire or automatic weapon like a MP5 AUG or M4 in a civil disorder. Some citizen or media wonk would fixate on you and then SWAT/SRT would chase you down the street not the rioters.

The best advice is to avoid these areas but if you get in a jam, leave ASAP.

 

[X-Rap]

I grew up in the '60’s. That was the decade of large scale civil unrest. Mass demonstration involving thousands of citizens protesting the Vietnam War, equal rights for women and civil rights for minorities such as blacks.

I too am of that era and did that growing up in a small Midwestern town without even a flashing light.
The country we now live in is occupied buy what may be tens of millions of illegal undocumented aliens who in many cases have refused to embrace our culture and in some cases are declared enemy's of the state.
We have not yet seen these foreigners rise up here in the US but my understanding of some European countries have the authorities taking a hands off approach to the ethnic areas ceding authority to the cultural leaders of the enclaves.
I can see this stand off approach on our borders today and there are few major cities that don't have very large populations of ethnic groups who have resisted the American culture, laws, and language. Detroit and Minneapolis come to mind.
If these people decide to make trouble we can expect to see a much more violent and third world reaction than what we Americans have typically regarded as unrest. We need to see what happens across the pond and hopefully have time to react accordingly. The last few decades have moved us much closer to the European Socialist model than our unique American Republic.

 

[ku4hx]

Car/truck - no; house maybe. Everything in the safe and if I need a rifle, I have the handgun to sort of enable getting to one.

 

[amprecon]

Nope, not where I live. I have a handgun to get me out of any potentially threatening situations, whether I need to display it or not, I'm high-tailing it out of the bad situation. I don't want my vehicle broken into and any of my weapons stolen, let alone one of my carbines.
Now if we lived in a more rural area, I'd consider keeping one in my vehicle.

 

[Thermactor]

No car gun here. It would be fifteen different shades of illegal anyway.

 

[AlexanderA]

This "civil unrest" is nothing compared to what we saw in 1968. Even that was nothing compared to other parts of the world.

I don't keep a gun in my car.

 

[Kleanbore]

No.

 

[Jeff White]

Just an observation on the culture here at THR. Every time there is a a violent event that receives a lot of news coverage we get the inevitable "Has (fill in the violent event of your choice) made you consider carrying a long gun?" thread.

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

Assuming you make it to your vehicle and get it started. If you can make it to your vehicle and reach in it and retrieve an SBR or SBS you might have a chance against multiple attackers.

Let's get serious here.

We can ALL come up with scenarios in which this or that tactic or option is the most suitable. But the big picture is actively working NOT to place oneself in such dire circumstances needlessly and to also learn to use ANY tool at hand when required.

If you can make it to your locked vehicle, unlock it, reach in to wherever you may have your SBR, load/chamber/unsafe your SBR and effectively bring it into play, I submit that you very likely have time to get in, shut/lock the door, and start the vehicle.

Beware of intentionally narrowing one's options down to a very limited set of choices.

 

[Officers'Wife]

I always carry a carbine in the truck! In this neighborhood you never know when you will be accosted by suicidal coyotes!

 

[Vern Humphrey]

No. The prime consideration of a "car gun" is that you can get it into action quickly. Carbines and SBRs are difficult to maneuver in the confines of a car.

If you're really under attack, when you HAVE to use your weapon, you probably won't have time or space to deploy your carbine. Carry a handgun that you can count on, powerful enough to do the job and extra ammo.

 

[Garrobo]

Not really.

I carry a .44 Special revolver in my waist band and I have a 7.62X25 Tokarev in my truck. In the small central Ohio town near where I live there are only about 6 of the type of persons who might get involved in this sort of thing so I think things will stay pretty calm around here. If not, just about everyone around here carries and/or has an arsenal at home.

 

[Arizona_Mike]

So I just went back and edited out all the parts of my original post where I said I would stop carrying my ccw, stop avoiding trouble (despite a 44 year track record of doing just that), would not first attempt to flee, would somehow limit my options by having more options. I also deleted the part where I said I would start trouble. Amazingly I managed to make all these edits without the firm software recording it.

Mike

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

So I just went back and edited out all the parts of my original post where I said I would stop carrying my ccw, stop avoiding trouble (despite a 44 year track record of doing just that), would not first attempt to flee, would somehow limit my options by having more options. I also deleted the part where I said I would start trouble. Amazingly I managed to make all these edits without the firm software recording it.

Mike

The sarcasm is strong in you.

 

[Arizona_Mike]

Just an observation on the culture here at THR. Every time there is a a violent event that receives a lot of news coverage we get the inevitable "Has (fill in the violent event of your choice) made you consider carrying a long gun?" thread.

Considering that the primary reasons behind my question are events that happened in 2011 and 2012, your cultural observation could not possibly be wrong with such a relaxed definition of "after".

Mike

 

[Arizona_Mike]

The sarcasm is strong in you.

I think humor is a far better response than taking all the projection here personally

 

[silicosys4]

Considering that the primary reasons behind my question are events that happened in 2011 and 2012, your cultural observation could not possibly be wrong with such a relaxed definition of "after".

Mike

I've been lurking/posting since 2011 and I've seen several of these "will you carry xxx if xxx happens?" threads posted after disasters or "civil unrest". In fact, its pretty much a guarantee every time the media pounces, a thread appears.
Katrina,
Zimmerman,
Boston bombing,
Isis,
Al queda,
Fergusen,
France Hebdo executions
Now Baltimore.
None of them were appropriate situations that necessitates a nationwide change in stance on weapons choices.
All of them were severely overhyped by the media, and all of them were designed to drive panic, to keep butts glued in front of the TV.
You have to go back to the LA riots over twenty years ago to find a major situation in which law abiding citizens were in widespread danger in their own homes by rioters.

 

[ACP]

I don't sense any "trends."

 

[hso]

We did this silliness already and closed that one. Swallowing the media's fear mongering sells guns and ammo, but it isn't an accurate representation of reality.