Woods Revolver Cartridge

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Barbaroja said:
Also a good option, although I would trust a cast bullet of the proper alloy to do the same job for a lot less money.
Prehaps if you live in Australia and have water Buffalo around that your trying to shoot with your handgun.
Good point though I don’t think anyone has brought up using copper solids.
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And this is precisely why we started the Bovine Bash years ago, to find out what works and what doesn’t in a controlled environment. While I’ve used hardcast bullets on many game animals to include water buffalo, the inconsistency due to the material limitations has not only curbed my enthusiasm, but it has also forced me to limit their use to certain types/weights of animals.
 
MaxP said:
And this is precisely why we started the Bovine Bash years ago, to find out what works and what doesn’t in a controlled environment. While I’ve used hardcast bullets on many game animals to include water buffalo, the inconsistency due to the material limitations has not only curbed my enthusiasm, but it has also forced me to limit their use to certain types/weights of animals.
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Well I’d certainly put your real world experience on the subject much higher than my purely hypothetical ramblings hahaha.
Did you just change your profile photo to you and a water Buffalo?
 
Barbaroja said:
Well I’d certainly put your real world experience on the subject much higher than my purely hypothetical ramblings hahaha.
Did you just change your profile photo to you and a water Buffalo?
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No, that has been my avatar for at least a year and a half, and that is a Cape buffalo, not a water buffalo.
 
MaxP said:
No, that has been my avatar for at least a year and a half, and that is a Cape buffalo, not a water buffalo.
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Must have confused you with another member. pardon my ignorance to the Buffalo species, either way that’s a fine looking animal. What was the revolver used in the photo?
 
I'm kinda lost... so... after all this discussion... will a 255 grn hard cast Keith bullet from a .44 Spl @ 1k fps still suffice as hog medicine in S. MS ?
 
Mr. Mosin said:
Perfectly understandable. I've no desire to hunt buffalo myself, but I'd love to hunt something... exotic.
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Yea I’m with you, sounds exciting for sure. Back on topic, that is the same load I’m planning on taking with me for a hog hunt im trying to make happen this spring in Alabama or Georgia.
 
In Colorado, my centerfire revolver "woods gun" has varied from .38 S&W (not special) up to the big fours- .44/40, .44 Special, .44 Mag, .45 Auto Rim, .455 Webley and .45 Colt.
 
Antihero said:
The 329pd is 25oz and it does kick, but it's not like it's impossible to shoot in anyway. I wouldn't want to fire 500rds of full power Magnums thru it but a couple cylinders aren't bad at all
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I've never had the pleasure of firing a 329 with full power 44 Magnum loads, but I do have extensive experience with a 48 oz 44 Mag Ruger Redhawk and my 20 oz Charter with factory level 44 Specials. I've found recoil to be quite adequate in both instances. The idea of firing the Redhawk loads in a 25 oz gun sounds like the worst of both worlds and doesn't hold much appeal. I've also found that while recoil in the Redhawk is manageable, it's a lot of work actually getting decent accuracy out of it. YMMV.

I will say that the 329 with warmish 44 Special loads sounds like a very nice woods rig. I seriously considered one, but it cost $1000 more than the Charter.
 
A question about cartridge vs ft. lbs. muzzle energy. I'll use Buffalo Bore's loads, because that's what I'm looking at right now.

Buffalo Bore's "14B", a 255grn .44 Spl, Kieth style SWC-GC, @ 1000 fps, w/ 566 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy.

Buffalo Bore's "19A", a 180grn .357 Magnum, LFN-GC, @ 1400 fps, w/ 783 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy.

I have a feeling that that particular .44 Spl load would be a better load for what I'm wanting (hogs/ possible black bear), but... why ? Bigger hole, bigger meplat, what ? Or am I wrong, and would that .357 Mag load be "better" ?
 
Mr. Mosin said:
A question about cartridge vs ft. lbs. muzzle energy. I'll use Buffalo Bore's loads, because that's what I'm looking at right now.

Buffalo Bore's "14B", a 255grn .44 Spl, Kieth style SWC-GC, @ 1000 fps, w/ 566 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy.

Buffalo Bore's "19A", a 180grn .357 Magnum, LFN-GC, @ 1400 fps, w/ 783 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy.

I have a feeling that that particular .44 Spl load would be a better load for what I'm wanting (hogs/ possible black bear), but... why ? Bigger hole, bigger meplat, what ? Or am I wrong, and would that .357 Mag load be "better" ?
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Either are good for hogs/ black bear, I personally would choose the 180 grain LFN-GC 357 mag because of it's slightly better sectional density and higher velocity.
 
natman said:
I've never had the pleasure of firing a 329 with full power 44 Magnum loads, but I do have extensive experience with a 48 oz 44 Mag Ruger Redhawk and my 20 oz Charter with factory level 44 Specials. I've found recoil to be quite adequate in both instances. The idea of firing the Redhawk loads in a 25 oz gun sounds like the worst of both worlds and doesn't hold much appeal. I've also found that while recoil in the Redhawk is manageable, it's a lot of work actually getting decent accuracy out of it. YMMV.

I will say that the 329 with warmish 44 Special loads sounds like a very nice woods rig. I seriously considered one, but it cost $1000 more than the Charter.
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That's actually primarily what I bought it for, hotter 44 special loads and ( yeah it's crazy I know) a cold weather CCW. Works great for that.

But I've fired Magnums thru it, even bear loads. It's all doable but if I need that horsepower, I'll use my 45colt Blackhawk loaded very hot instead.

And I had a Redhawk for years, great guns and I shot it a bunch
 
Mr. Mosin said:
A question about cartridge vs ft. lbs. muzzle energy. I'll use Buffalo Bore's loads, because that's what I'm looking at right now.

Buffalo Bore's "14B", a 255grn .44 Spl, Kieth style SWC-GC, @ 1000 fps, w/ 566 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy.

Buffalo Bore's "19A", a 180grn .357 Magnum, LFN-GC, @ 1400 fps, w/ 783 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy.

I have a feeling that that particular .44 Spl load would be a better load for what I'm wanting (hogs/ possible black bear), but... why ? Bigger hole, bigger meplat, what ? Or am I wrong, and would that .357 Mag load be "better" ?
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the 44 special will be easier on the ears.

murf
 
Out "multi-tasking" on my friends property changing SD cards on a couple trail cams with the only danger being attacked by a squirrel, (grin). So the Single Six came along with the 22LR cylinder in it. So my woods revolver cartridge today was the 22LR. Squirrel season's open so I might have had a chance for one but no such luck today. Even remembered to bring the camera and if I didn't get a shot at a squirrel I at least got a shot of the Ruger on a trail cam. How's that for a woods revolver ? Was hoping to put a freshly harvested squirrel in the picture. Maybe next time... IMG_0184.JPG
 
For loafing around in the woods, like an M-10.
I know 38 SPL is no powerhouse, it is however, highly "shootable"
Nothing unusual in our local woods; wild and semi wild canines, Bobcats, A really large black cat (probably he bothers me the most- have seem him a couple times usually near a deer carcus with twisted neck), moose, bear. Plus some two legged creatures, usually hovering around certain hid in the woods herb patches.
A 1970s Speer loading manual suggested for 38 Spl that a 140 gr bullet ...is the best compromise between velocity and penetration... Have been loading a 140 gr TCFP, penetrates well, leaves an almost LBT wound channel, shoots to M10 sights - plus fairly economical to load.
 
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