Words, and the wars thereof.

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GunnySkox

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Hi everyone, first post, and all that.
Necessary info: Seventeen (just turned on the 20th), limited gun experience (Fired: P11, SKS, RRA AR-15, Cougar 8045, FN Police shotgun; fired more extensively: Mini-14 Ranch, Maverick Field 88), little practical knowledge of firearms, fair amounts of "reading articles" knowledge, try to be as anal-retentive about the four-rules as possible.

Alright, I was thinking about the AWB, and how whenever I try to chat with my friends about such things, invariably, they are confused by the terminology (as was intended by the gun-grabbers and their ilk) and loaded language; especially "confusing" ideas were semi versus fully automatic weapons (it's that "automatic" in there) and I thought it might be a good idea to try and make up some counter-terms to combat the emotional bullhockey that the grabbers used to villify our favored tools.

Now, I must confess that my ideas actually came from video games. I know this'll draw some flak from posters with more years and rounds under and on their belt than me, but I, and this is the softest, most non-trollish way I can put it, don't care.
Onto the ideas:

Semiautomatic rifle ("assault weapon")
Semiautomatic sounds evil, mechanical; it's "automatic" (makes the unknowledgeable think MACHINEGUN, eep! run!) with a prefix. The replacement here comes from two sources: the fact that the AR-15 (evilest of the evil among "assault weapons") is used in highpower competition a lot, and the game Red Faction. In RF, there was a weapon called the "Precision Rifle" that was a semiautomatic and was highly accurate with a little scope on it.
The term would be "Precision rifle." At the same time, this term does away with the word "automatic" and helps dispell the myth of "bullet hoses" and "spraying high volumes of ammunition from the hip" with a semiauto. "Precision" doesn't sound quite as scary as "assault" or "semitautomatic".
On another note, the PR in RF looked like an AR and a G36 had babies that grew into big, angry, beige rifles.

Another idea I had to replace "semiautomatic" was born of the Fallout Series of games. Semiauto weapons in that game are referred to as "single-shot". What a wonderful thought! You can't spray anything if it's "single-shot." And, in context, with a semiauto, "single shot" is very true. You only get a single shot per trigger pull. Single doesn't sound very threatening at all (no comments on marksmanship, please, I'm talking about dealing with the war of words, not practicality [or tacticality :D ]).

More ideas more than welcome, as are critiques and such (not that I could stop ye...).

Honestly, I had more, but I lost my train of thought. It derailed while I was gawking at some delicious gun-pr0n somewhere else on the board...

~Slam_Fire
I am a malfunction!

PS. I'd been digging around here for about a month before I registered, and I'd like to say that THR is one of the most civil forums I've yet seen on the annoyingly idiot-ridden interweb. :D

ON EDIT: Dang, I just saw the "Marketing Strategy" thread, and this'n's really similar >.< Maybe I should've poster on that'n..
 
I think that your ideas are very good in regards to the politics of the gun rights movement. It sounds to me like you're thinking of doing with words what Oleg does with images. If we can find us a filmaker on the board we'll have a full media compliment.

Reading your writing I'd say you've already got a substantial jump start on the vast majority of others your age in the literary category (you weren't home schooled were you?), so I hope you'll keep at it, and in a few years maybe we'll have another Gary Kleck or Clayton Cramer.
 
Delmar - you're including that nasty catch-phrase "auto" in your description.

How about self-loaders?

Hmmm.... Self-Loading, Single Shot Precision Rifle.... don't think I've ever heard an AR described thusly.... ;-)
 
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Reading your writing I'd say you've already got a substantial jump start on the vast majority of others your age in the literary category (you weren't home schooled were you?), so I hope you'll keep at it, and in a few years maybe we'll have another Gary Kleck or Clayton Cramer.

Thanks! I wasn't homeschooled (to break down my edjamacational history, I spent K-1 in NY state public, 1-6 in VA public, 7-8 in a Private Methodist school in AL, 9 in a public school in Arkansas, and 9-12 in a Charter School in Texas; currently, this is the last week of my Junior year.) but I'd like to think that I've gotten a rather better education than some of my peers. To make this post gun-related, as well as school-related (God forbid), I've taken one of my classmates with me (and my father) to the range, and plan on doing more to sorta "push" the evil gun-industry's platform on my peers.

~Slam_Fire

"Remember, safety comes before everything else, including fun and civility." ~Myself, to friend I took to the trap-range.
 
Amish Bill:
Hmmm.... Self-Loading, Single Shot Precision Rifle.... don't think I've ever heard an AR described thusly.... ;-)

In the immortal words of Butthead, "We have a winner!" Now, if we could just get everyone else in the entire gun community/industry to start using terms like that, we "might-could" turn the connotational tide back on the grabbers and their annoying pathos. Think Olympic Arms would do us a favor and rename the PCR the S^4PR?

As an aside, I can't believe none of the old(er)-timers have jumped on me for getting my ideas from computer games. In my defense, I hate Counter Strike, and prefer Day of Defeat.


~Slam_Fire
"Man, I can get off on a tangent about anything. I mean, look at this, I'm on a tangent of a tangent about tangents. This is like.. the the tangent of a normal of a tangent, what's up with that? Good Lord, look at this, now I'm on a tangent about describing conversational branching with geometry! What were we talking about originally? Oh, yeah, stopping for sodas..." ~Myself
 
I dunno... usually "single-shot" implies that the gun can only hold one round, IIRC. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.)

Not bagging on the general idea, though, I think it's great. Maybe "one-round action" or something?

Sure beats "evil lead-spitting death weapon from Mars" :D
 
I dunno... usually "single-shot" implies that the gun can only hold one round, IIRC. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.)

I think you're right, and that does pose a bit of a problem. We could refer to "actual" single-shot firearms as "breech-loaders" or... hmm... "manually-fed" (to differentiate from bolt/lever actions, which put the round right there for you to close the bolt on, y'know).

I dunno, maybe I'm just trying to hard to keep this thread up near the top. :D

~Slam_Fire
"I'm not a gun nut. I'm a gun NERD. There's almost a difference!" ~Me
 
Hmmm.... Self-Loading, Single Shot Precision Rifle.... don't think I've ever heard an AR described thusly

Wouldn't a precision rifle be the same a sniper rifle

If we call a semi-auto a single shot what are we gonna call a '73 Sharpes or a Ruger #1

Breech loader describes every gun designed after about 1873

How about combustion actuated mechanically induced feed rifle, as opposed to a lever or bolt actuated manual feed rifle
 
Wouldn't a precision rifle be the same a sniper rifle

That isn't the point. The whole idea is to change the connotation of semiautomatic rifles from bullet-spraying death machines to something that doesn't make sheeple wet themselves at the very thought. You see, "assault weapon" is a BS term designed to scare sheeple. I'm trying to make up BS terms that make ye olde AR-15 LESS frightening. "Precise" does not imply mass-murder, and it does not imply "spraying" anything.

Get over the technical accuracy of the terms I made up. THAT AIN'T THE POINT. Come at this from a rhetorical or literary standpoint, not a technical one. If you were taking a newbie to the range, would you rather hand him an "assault rifle" or a "target rifle"? Connotation is the key, technicality notwithstanting. You can't fight emotion with truth on equal grounds. We, as gun owners, have to level the playing field of language and emotion before we can fight the grabbers on the basis of facts (a fight that I think "we" can consistently win. "We" meaning people who know more than I do).

~Slam_Fire
Sorry if I seem inflammatory.

ON EDIT: Guh, I just realized that a couple of posts ago, I failed to make this very point on the "single-shot" thing. Please apply this to the above as well, please.
 
I see your point, but replacing inacurate terms with more inaccurate terms doesn't work for me. If I take a newbie to the range I would hope that he was the type of person that would not be swayed by BS PC words as much as I would hope that he wouldn't put his bullets into his clips before he shot his single shot ,precision, feel good ,flower powered gun
And wasn't it "precision rifles" in .50 calber that they were trying to ban because they could kill a mile away
 
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