WORST firearm moment in a movie
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For sheer obscenity-shrieking, popcorn-flinging badness, the top prize has to go to the Lethal Weapon movie where Mel Gibson has a CTC LaserGrip on his Beretta.
He gets pinned down by the bad-guy, turns on the laser, bounces the dot off of various objects until the laser ison the bad guys chest, then pulls the trigger and the bullet follows the exact same ricochet path as the laser dot!
Arrggh!
LawDog
He gets pinned down by the bad-guy, turns on the laser, bounces the dot off of various objects until the laser ison the bad guys chest, then pulls the trigger and the bullet follows the exact same ricochet path as the laser dot!
Arrggh!
LawDog
marklbucla
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I'll put another vote in for Pulp Fiction, except for the car scene where I believe it was John Travolta who ND's killing the guy in the back seat.
I think it's the worst because stuff like that really happens where people will ND and it's also contributed to the idea that "guns go off on their own."
I'll put a second in for the scene in S.W.A.T. at the train yard where the bad guy didn't know that there would still be a live round in the chamber even though the magazine was out.
It's not so much the inaccuracies that bug me, it's more the accurate reflections on reality that get me. We have to put up with stupid laws that come about because people don't understand proper safety or even how guns work.
I think it's the worst because stuff like that really happens where people will ND and it's also contributed to the idea that "guns go off on their own."
I'll put a second in for the scene in S.W.A.T. at the train yard where the bad guy didn't know that there would still be a live round in the chamber even though the magazine was out.
It's not so much the inaccuracies that bug me, it's more the accurate reflections on reality that get me. We have to put up with stupid laws that come about because people don't understand proper safety or even how guns work.
EddieCoyle
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I don't remember the show, but I once saw a guy point a Glock at someone, then cock the hammer with his thumb. When the BG told him what he wanted to know, he let the hammer down with his thumb.
Black Majik
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EddieCoyle said:
This reminds me of Executive decision, when the main terrorist executes his own teammate, he cocks his Glock as he shoots him. Sigh...
As for more Glock inaccuracies, Man Of Fire Denzel Washington gives the father his Glock to shoot himself, but he takes out the magazine so theres only the round in the chamber. When the father shoots himself the gun is at slide lock without the magazine. ::sigh::
How can we forget Matrix, when Neo enters into the building, the SWAT team comes to the lobby and you hear "ch ch ch ch ch ch ch" as everyone points their rifles at Neo and Trinity. Classic hollywood.
LawDog said:
Actually it goes like this... Gibson aims his laser at something metal (completely rusted and not reflective, maybe the shovel to a backhoe)behind the BG and the laser reflects down and back onto the BG's butt who is bent over taking cover. First of all, the laser itself wouldnt have reflected down in this way. But the point you make, LawDog, remains. The chances of a bullet following the reflection of a laser are a million to one.
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Edited to add: It really gets me when any group of soldiers/militiamen/gangsters/police or whatever all stand in a circle around their target. They would all shoot each other if anybody started shooting.
Well ... not really. When the gun goes off in the car, it was clear that the car had gone over a bump in the road. Visuals made a point of it.marklbucla said:
I think the scene contributed more to the idea that it may not be in everyones best interest to be waving a loaded pistol around in a moving car with your finger on the trigger (yet another visual they made a point of).
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Just tonight I was watching an episode of "Lost" on DVD a friend insisted on loaning me. Not a completely horible series, but ...
Anyway - in one flashback, the 'Sawyer' character had just purchased a J frame from a guy in Australia. Later on, before using it, he opens the cylinder and spins it. They added in that really neat clicking sound it makes when you spin the cylinder on a single action.
Silver Bullet
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Worst moment was the 1995 version of The Quick and the Dead, where Gene Hackman gets shot in a gunfight, looks down at the ground at his shadow and sees a point of light through his COM.
For this to happen, sun (behind him) would have to send a beam of light at about 45 degrees (judging by the length of his shadow), enter a hole at the back of his torso and pass through at 0 degrees (horizontal to the ground), come out from his front side and angle down 45 degrees to his shadow. No only do I doubt the beam performing this zigzag, I am skeptical that a gunshot through his torso would maintain a passageway through all his soft tissues.
For this to happen, sun (behind him) would have to send a beam of light at about 45 degrees (judging by the length of his shadow), enter a hole at the back of his torso and pass through at 0 degrees (horizontal to the ground), come out from his front side and angle down 45 degrees to his shadow. No only do I doubt the beam performing this zigzag, I am skeptical that a gunshot through his torso would maintain a passageway through all his soft tissues.
MTMilitiaman
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You guys have got most of them. I can recall people in a theater being annoyed at me for pointing out numerous times that 1911s can't be decocked with one hand because of the grip safety.
Also having done extensive testing, I can assure you that the common "shoot the lock off" or "bang it off with a shovel" effect is pure Hollywood crap. I've seen a Masterlock take two 305 gr Corbons from a .44 Mag Blackhawk, an entire magazine of 95 gr JHPs from a FEG .380, and a round of 12 gauge 00 buckshot before coming apart. I've also seen them take a hit from a .300 Mag and remain locked. Suggesting a single 9mm is going to blow one apart or a couple whacks from a shovel will do that trick is ludicrious.
I love snipers with laser sights on their rifles, surpressors on revolvers, the way bullets are almost always depicted as spitzers in flight even if they are fired from handguns, and a whole host of other Hollywood B.S that I can't remember right now. I think a lot of us should be making good money as consultants for these producers, but I doubt they really care a whole lot about realism.
Also having done extensive testing, I can assure you that the common "shoot the lock off" or "bang it off with a shovel" effect is pure Hollywood crap. I've seen a Masterlock take two 305 gr Corbons from a .44 Mag Blackhawk, an entire magazine of 95 gr JHPs from a FEG .380, and a round of 12 gauge 00 buckshot before coming apart. I've also seen them take a hit from a .300 Mag and remain locked. Suggesting a single 9mm is going to blow one apart or a couple whacks from a shovel will do that trick is ludicrious.
I love snipers with laser sights on their rifles, surpressors on revolvers, the way bullets are almost always depicted as spitzers in flight even if they are fired from handguns, and a whole host of other Hollywood B.S that I can't remember right now. I think a lot of us should be making good money as consultants for these producers, but I doubt they really care a whole lot about realism.
Kodiaz
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Cmon stop trashing the hollywood firearms academy. I don't want them showing the criminal element about cover and concealment about reloading about not shooting a pistol sideways. If someone breaks into my house I want them to hold the gun sideways and take cover behind an interior wall or a couch. Or better yet come around a corner with a pistol pointing straight up into the air.
Kodiaz
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I can decock my 1911 one handed. I wouldn't do it in condition 1 though.
nyresq
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bogie said:
Bro, that was funny as hell........
as for the tomb raider movies..... if your paying attention to the guns, you need to go to the range and work out some aggression :banghead: ... I watched that movie three times before I realized there was a plot..... the reloading backpack is pretty cool, though it would take a lot of practice to get the double load move down...
Strings
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nyresq: Spoon and I were actually thinking of trying to arrange something like her reload setup out of the begining of the movie, just for s&g's...
Vex
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Just a side note.... Billy Zane's weapon in Sniper is actually an MSG90.
Lucky
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MTMilitiaman said:
"I can do it."
"I can decock my 1911 one handed. I wouldn't do it in condition 1 though."
Yea, when you pull the hammer back a bit more it pushes on the backstrap (I think that's the word) and this works like a cantilever to push the grip safety in. Then once you pull the trigger, with your thumb still on the hammer, the grip safety stays engaged until you release the trigger.
At least on the Norinco model.
Edit: rented 'The Transporter 2' the other night, and it's a mixed blessing. It's VERY hollywood, much suckier than the first movie. But they took this really trampy looking model and put her in pink lingerie and had her firing glock 18's or something in each hand, after carrying them concealed under a lab coat. And the bullets won't go through an ordinary wooden door, though they go through everything else. And she shoots a team-mate for no real reason, lol, and no-one cares.
...But you stop caring too much once you see the slow-motion scene of her walking around and taking the lab coat off. As I recall there were some other scenes in the movie too, but about 2 of the 3 hours of the movie are her in her undies. And then the sprinklers go off over her
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Assault on precinct 13
Has anyone seen this? I watched it, and every time the swat team (bad guys) tried to breach and enter the police station, they would run up to it, cock their weapons, and then attempt to go inside. Yeah, sure.... Someone or in this case, a lot of someones would never approach a building where they know the occupants are armed, and be a swat team member or police officer.
Has anyone seen this? I watched it, and every time the swat team (bad guys) tried to breach and enter the police station, they would run up to it, cock their weapons, and then attempt to go inside. Yeah, sure.... Someone or in this case, a lot of someones would never approach a building where they know the occupants are armed, and be a swat team member or police officer.
1911 guy
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Custer
Watched a Custer movie a long time ago. At the final scene, Custer was using a buntline special-esque long barrel revolver. Taking careful aim, of course, by laying it over his left forearm. Powder burns, anyone.
Oh, I can de-cock a 1911 one handed, too. As mentioned, I'd never do it from condition one. Too little margin for "oops".
Watched a Custer movie a long time ago. At the final scene, Custer was using a buntline special-esque long barrel revolver. Taking careful aim, of course, by laying it over his left forearm. Powder burns, anyone.
Oh, I can de-cock a 1911 one handed, too. As mentioned, I'd never do it from condition one. Too little margin for "oops".
mrmeval
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A 1911A1 where the slide did not move when fired and that did not lock back when empty then 'clicked' when the trigger is pulled. It was some squished out scifi channel flick. They are notoriously bad at crap like that. They do better with Norelco razors and TV remotes as weapons, OOOOO Pretty Lights OOOOO.
I even saw one where the weapon looked suspiciously like a metal bowl folded in half.
I even saw one where the weapon looked suspiciously like a metal bowl folded in half.
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smokemaker
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Everyone that mentioned Rambo and the M-60... It wasn't the belt not running out that bothered me... it was that the barrel never got white hot and drooped. Just kept on holding that trigger down. Gun didn't look water cooled.
Whoever mentioned busting locks... the key is to shoot down on the lock, not directly at it. A 158 grain .357 mag will bust a masterlock. I've seen it done. (though I don't have the cajones to try it myself)
Whoever mentioned busting locks... the key is to shoot down on the lock, not directly at it. A 158 grain .357 mag will bust a masterlock. I've seen it done. (though I don't have the cajones to try it myself)
No! I can't believe I completely missed that. I have to go back and look tonight when I get home. Too cool - a left handed wheel gun!Rob1035 said:did you notice at one point the cylinder came out from the right side of the revolver as well? I distinctly remember that, cause i'm a lefty and would love that revolver
proud2deviate
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In the original Star Wars, the blaster rifles eject cases. Blanks were used in the modified Sterling SMGs to simulate recoil and signify when a shot was fired.
In the final scenes of The Matrix, Smith shoots Neo at least 11 times with his Desert Eagle, and still no slide lock. This bothers me more than the view of the blanks in the gun.
Also in The Matrix, Neo unloads two Berretas at an Agent, who dodges the bullets. The Agent draws his weapon and returns fire. Neo drops his Berretas and proceeds to do the bullet dodging thing. As the camera enters bullet time, it pans 360 degrees around Neo, and the Berretas dropped seconds before are nowhere to be seen. Cloaked assault pistol, anyone?
Fun trivia- In The Matrix, the Agent's Desert Eagles have the standard black oxide finish. In The Matrix Reloaded, the "upgraded" agents have blued Desert Eagles
In the final scenes of The Matrix, Smith shoots Neo at least 11 times with his Desert Eagle, and still no slide lock. This bothers me more than the view of the blanks in the gun.
Also in The Matrix, Neo unloads two Berretas at an Agent, who dodges the bullets. The Agent draws his weapon and returns fire. Neo drops his Berretas and proceeds to do the bullet dodging thing. As the camera enters bullet time, it pans 360 degrees around Neo, and the Berretas dropped seconds before are nowhere to be seen. Cloaked assault pistol, anyone?
Fun trivia- In The Matrix, the Agent's Desert Eagles have the standard black oxide finish. In The Matrix Reloaded, the "upgraded" agents have blued Desert Eagles
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