#Worst range brass ever

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Shot about 100 rounds of 45 at the indoor range. I usually lose some brass and pick up some others during each session.

I was sorting this evening and found about 30 of these TZZ and TZZ Match 85 casings.

WOW!! This is the worst stuff I have ever seen fired. Fatigue, cracks etc. Luckily whoever shot these didn’t blow something up in the process.


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Yup, there's more than one meaning to " shoot it till ya loose it".

I had a batch of 38Spl that my pop started loading back in the late 60s early 70's. Most all of the nickle was gone on them except just a little around the rims and case heads. When I really started loading a lot, I rooted that can up, and probably put another couple dozen loads on them before they finally started looking just like those 45s. Pop usually just shot a light 158gr RN load and usually only sized the top half of the cases to hold the bullets. I used the 146, or 148gr, WC to piddle with. Just guessing that's why they managed to hang in as long as they did.
 
It’s Israeli Military Industries but if produced after early 2000s may be made here under agreement with American Ammunition I think it is. AFGE’s website has more.

It’s not all garbage but there isn’t a lot of it either. I have these unloaded cases and other cartridges somewhere around here.

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There's a reason it was left behind.
Speaking of "left behind"... this stuff continues to rank in last place with me.
Worthless. Not even worth the flat screen it's printed on.

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Shot about 100 rounds of 45 at the indoor range. I usually lose some brass and pick up some others during each session.

I was sorting this evening and found about 30 of these TZZ and TZZ Match 85 casings.

WOW!! This is the worst stuff I have ever seen fired. Fatigue, cracks etc. Luckily whoever shot these didn’t blow something up in the process.


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Reminds me of the tuna sandwich I found on a city bus. I didn’t eat it. Figured it was probably left on purpose because that person didn’t want it either.
 
Lately I've been finding a lot of bad cases from range brass. From erosion of the extraction groove to cracked necks and deep cuts along the case mouth plus gas escaping from the primer pocket. I check cases three times during the reloading process. And it isn't just foreign cases. I've found most of the problems comes from common mfr. American made cases. Anytime and anywhere there is soot found a case, it is now suspect.
 
Lately I've been finding a lot of bad cases from range brass. From erosion of the extraction groove to cracked necks and deep cuts along the case mouth plus gas escaping from the primer pocket. I check cases three times during the reloading process. And it isn't just foreign cases. I've found most of the problems comes from common mfr. American made cases. Anytime and anywhere there is soot found a case, it is now suspect.
Yeah! Gosh darn these people leaving behind their used up brass! They should be ashamed of themselves!
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Yeah! Gosh darn these people leaving behind their used up brass! They should be ashamed of themselves!
Prior to Covid it wasn't a big issue. But then we also had the Obama syndrome back in 2016 with the lack of powder and the Remington fallout too. I thought for a long time that factory quality control was lacking. A lot of people donate their old brass to the club for scrap money to help support different projects the club is doing. That is fine, however, there is so much waste scrap turning up there is little to buy or find that is good for reusing. There use to be people leaving once fired brass for others to use just because they didn't reload. That's not happening so much anymore, at least not in rifle brass. Even in buying range brass the quality of bought cartridges is very low right now. On the other hand, pistol and revolver cases are coming back quickly. There is only a shortage of .357 mag. cases.
 
Lately I've been finding a lot of bad cases from range brass. From erosion of the extraction groove to cracked necks and deep cuts along the case mouth plus gas escaping from the primer pocket. I check cases three times during the reloading process. And it isn't just foreign cases. I've found most of the problems comes from common mfr. American made cases. Anytime and anywhere there is soot found a case, it is now suspect.
I’m guilty of picking up nearly everything I come across. I pitch the scrap and give away what I can’t load for. In some cases I will save the brass, buy the dies and then the gun. Lol


Its rare to find much more than Reg Joe pistol rounds anymore.
 
Prior to Covid it wasn't a big issue. But then we also had the Obama syndrome back in 2016 with the lack of powder and the Remington fallout too. I thought for a long time that factory quality control was lacking. A lot of people donate their old brass to the club for scrap money to help support different projects the club is doing. That is fine, however, there is so much waste scrap turning up there is little to buy or find that is good for reusing. There use to be people leaving once fired brass for others to use just because they didn't reload. That's not happening so much anymore, at least not in rifle brass. Even in buying range brass the quality of bought cartridges is very low right now. On the other hand, pistol and revolver cases are coming back quickly. There is only a shortage of .357 mag. cases.
That explains a lot. I’ve been giving away more than usual and mostly lever rifle and revolver brass. That’s the stuff I used to get handed to me at the end of every hunting season.
 
Most of my shooting is not on a range where I can readily collect my brass, so I assume all of my brass will be "lost to the weeds" after four to six loadings (varies by cartridge) and thus don't worry too much about how often the case has been loaded.
 
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