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It appears to be an answer to a question that no one asked.
Would you carry this? Four barrel derringer edition
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No.
I have one of those Italian four barrel derringers that Mossberg used to sell. It's nearly the same size as my Ruger LCP and about as heavy. The four barrel design is bulky.
Judging from the pictures, the larger-caliber ones are larger than I would consider for concealed carry. If I'm going to haul around a full-sized pistol, I'll go 1911 or tupperware.
I have one of those Italian four barrel derringers that Mossberg used to sell. It's nearly the same size as my Ruger LCP and about as heavy. The four barrel design is bulky.
Judging from the pictures, the larger-caliber ones are larger than I would consider for concealed carry. If I'm going to haul around a full-sized pistol, I'll go 1911 or tupperware.
Vern Humphrey
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But why would you choose THAT gun over, say a .357 Mag revolver or a quality automatic?
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I might be able to answer this for him: reliability. He said if it was sold for a good enough price and, speaking for myself, if this was sold for $200 or less, I'd grab it. I think I said earlier in the thread my no buy price was $350+, but thinking about it, I could get a good quality used LCR for less than that.
I guess with this gun it's all about price, but I'm getting the feeling this piece will never see the light of day.
Vern Humphrey
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Reliability only exists in the real world. What evidence do we have that in the real world this abortion is more reliable that a good .357 revolver or an M1911?
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Break action design is very simple, fewer moving parts. Means that it will be durable. Revolvers rely on springs and timing, automatics on springs, ejecters, extractors, ammunition quality to power the slide, magazines, etc.
Vern Humphrey
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That's theory, not actual field experience. There have been a lot of multi-barreled pistols that were pure junk. What real world evidence do we have this gun is not one of them?
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We have none because it hasn't been released yet and likely never will be.
Vern Humphrey
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My point, exactly.
Why would anyone choose a carry gun with no track record?
Why would anyone choose a carry gun with no track record?
Reloadron
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No it does not interest me and no I would not carry it. More of a novelty gun than much else.
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Because if I don't spend a lot, and only have it as an emergency back up, and lose it, no big deal. Sorta like a Hi Point. It's there when I need it to go hang when my higher quality gun is empty, broken or otherwise inaccessible.
Last ditch gun, with a bit of novelty.
I'm not choosing it over, but in addition to.
Would I carry one? No. Not until it has some track record behind it.
Would I own it as a curiosity? Maybe. Would depend on the price.
Would I own it as a curiosity? Maybe. Would depend on the price.
Ed Ames
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As far as I know there are only two reasons for guns like this.
1) Compliance with regulations that impose barriers to ownership of revolver and semi-auto design pistols.
2) Ability to fire nonstandard ammo which would be unable to cycle through a semi-auto/too long for a revolver cylinder. E.g. teargas rounds, tranquilizer rounds, and similar. Since those are all pretty much fantasy fiction this is a very tenuous reason for designing a firearm a certain way. Cartridge fired tranquilizer darts tend to use .22 blanks to provide the gas to fire a large bore dart.
Since neither of those even remotely applies to me, I don't see myself ever buying one of these.
As for the argument that this would be easier for a non-gun person...a similarly sized pistol will deliver 10-12 rounds with nothing but a pull of the trigger per shot. Seriously beats four rounds and then a painful fumble to try and load four more.
1) Compliance with regulations that impose barriers to ownership of revolver and semi-auto design pistols.
2) Ability to fire nonstandard ammo which would be unable to cycle through a semi-auto/too long for a revolver cylinder. E.g. teargas rounds, tranquilizer rounds, and similar. Since those are all pretty much fantasy fiction this is a very tenuous reason for designing a firearm a certain way. Cartridge fired tranquilizer darts tend to use .22 blanks to provide the gas to fire a large bore dart.
Since neither of those even remotely applies to me, I don't see myself ever buying one of these.
As for the argument that this would be easier for a non-gun person...a similarly sized pistol will deliver 10-12 rounds with nothing but a pull of the trigger per shot. Seriously beats four rounds and then a painful fumble to try and load four more.
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I like that it's, "Designed for Men and Women alike."
Imagine if they used that sales pitch with automobiles or soda pop!
So pretty much designed for people with hands.A single shot break action is very simple. Once you add a second barrel it gets more complicated. By the time you add 4 barrels and a cam mechanism to index the firing pin from barrel to barrel I have a hard time believing this design is any less complicated than the tried and true clockwork on a revolver.
At the listed price of $450 there is no chance I will buy one.
i really see no benefit.....
it costs about the same as a S&W Bodyguard......yet its 2x the size, and carries 3 less rounds, and has a slower reload.
if you are concerned with reliability.....its also roughly the same price as a Ruger LCR......but is again, much larger, and carries 1 less round.
its interesting.....but i really dont see it being very practical.....
it costs about the same as a S&W Bodyguard......yet its 2x the size, and carries 3 less rounds, and has a slower reload.
if you are concerned with reliability.....its also roughly the same price as a Ruger LCR......but is again, much larger, and carries 1 less round.
its interesting.....but i really dont see it being very practical.....
Carl N. Brown
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Even if it is very highly reliable and very low maintenance with a very simple manual of arms, it would still be a very niche arm (I can imagine one in a wall box: "In case of self-defense emergency break glass".) To be "self-defense for dummies" it would have to be ALL of reliable, safe, low maintenance, and simple to operate.
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I would get it as a novelty, but not for HD/SD.
I have a cobra derringer.
I have a cobra derringer.
That's like saying it's prettier than a Glock - it's a pretty low bar.
They need to upsize it to 12 ga and sell it as a survival weapon. Load with a flare, a #00 buck, a slug, and a 7 1/2 birdshot and you are ready for anything.
As it is, it looks like a Nerf dart gun.
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To answer your question No !
I personally see no need for something like that. I'd much rather have a small semi auto ,a little J frame or similar.
I remember when the COP's came out. I know we had a couple of them at the LGS I worked for. I can't remember if I ever fired a COP on the indoor range we had or not. Probably not it didn't do anything for me back then either.That goes back a long time ago.
I personally see no need for something like that. I'd much rather have a small semi auto ,a little J frame or similar.
I remember when the COP's came out. I know we had a couple of them at the LGS I worked for. I can't remember if I ever fired a COP on the indoor range we had or not. Probably not it didn't do anything for me back then either.That goes back a long time ago.
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