Would you fireform this case or discard?

Would you fireform this case or discard?


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orpington

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Brand new, shoulder crimped, .303 Savage, will presently chamber in a Savage 1899 rifle.

I hate to be wasteful. IMG_2115.jpeg IMG_2116.jpeg
 
I voted to discard.

If it chambers, you could try to fireform it, but will you have a separation on the first full power firing, or the second, or???

The wrinkles will create a weak spot, just like when you bend a piece of metal back and forth. Sooner or later it breaks.

chris
 
I voted to discard.

If it chambers, you could try to fireform it, but will you have a separation on the first full power firing, or the second, or???

The wrinkles will create a weak spot, just like when you bend a piece of metal back and forth. Sooner or later it breaks.

chris
That was my suspicion, but being a brand new case it would be inherently stronger, or so I hoped.

.303 Savage brass isn’t common, but I still have another 499 cases.
 
Your choice to try it or not, but if you do I suggest having a way to remove it while at the range. Also, if you do try it, mark it so that you can keep track of that specific piece of brass.

I did something similar with some 7.62x39 brass while setting up my seating die. I had the die screwed down to far and crushed the neck while making my dummy round. Being the genius that I am, I did it a few more times before I figured it out! IMG_5094.JPG
chris
 
Your choice to try it or not, but if you do I suggest having a way to remove it while at the range. Also, if you do try it, mark it so that you can keep track of that specific piece of brass.

I did something similar with some 7.62x39 brass while setting up my seating die. I had the die screwed down to far and crushed the neck while making my dummy round. Being the genius that I am, I did it a few more times before I figured it out!View attachment 1178256
chris
I hadn’t crushed a round in ages. I used Hornady dies and the deprimer stuck in the neck and pulled through as it wasn’t tightened enough. While messing around with this I pushed down on the arm of the press which, of course, raises the case and doesn’t lower it.

The brass was purchased in bags of 50 and so no spare rounds, which is why I prefer purchasing in bulk 500 cases which means you usually have 501 or 502.
 
Toss it. I had a neck separate and stay in the chamber on a 22 Hornet awhile back. It's a bit nerve racking to extract without jacking the chamber up. One piece of brass isn't worth it.

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If it chambers, I’d fireform it just for fun. Small pistol charge, filler, and some toilet paper to hold things in. Then I would use it as a test round. No charge, no primer, bullet on top. I make one for every caliber I shoot.
I make up a pattern round with no primer for most of my cartridges. I load on a single stage press, so it makes it much easier to get everything lined back up when I change dies. I usually use old brass that has imperfections, or like this one, brass that is on its last legs anyway.
 
I voted to discard it. But that's only after I fire formed it then cut it with my Dremel to see what the neck looked like. Of course I'd post the results here :)
 
That looks like my 30-30 case that went through the 223-sizing die. I'm still looking for a wildcat rifle that will shoot a 22-caliber cartridge with 2 shoulders. I bet a 55-grain Vmax would really fly from a 30-30 case.
 
I would throw that in my bin of defects, which I kind of look at quick if I haven't sorted brass in a while, just to refresh my memory of what I'm looking for, and/or what not to do.
 
If that case were loaded, and if it did chamber and was fired, and if the wrinkle did straighten out, where is the brass gonna go? Into the throat? I'll watch when you fire that......from at least 50 feet away.
 
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