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Would you risk it? (College Campus)

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Hypothetically:

If you lived on the edge of campus, I mean VERY VERY edge, as in you could have one foot on campus and one off in your property, would you keep firearms in your apartment?

Your landlord does not prohibit it.

Would you risk it? Or do you not trust the local PD to understand?
 
Either you are on campus or your not. If you are not, you are within your legal rights to own a gun to protect your home.

Are you worried about carrying off your property?
 
Hell, I kept them in my dorm room at the heart of campus. I did not carry on campus since I went to a school in another state and I was not licensed at the time, but I did keep them in my dorm. Only 2 other people knew, both very trustworthy.
 
Does TX state law have a 1000 foot rule or something, that also applies to colleges? Most of those laws have exceptions for if your residence is within 1000 feet (or whatever) of a school.
 
Yes... but it's not illegal to carry firearms on a uni campus in my state anyways.
 
If it's not on campus, it's not on campus. It's all about intention... If you don't intend to carry on campus... then you could never intentionally carry on campus. It's not your fault if that's the only housing that fit your needs/budget.
 
Its not worth it if it is illegal. You could jeapordize your future. If it is legal, you risk getting kicked out of school which stinks but it does not jeapordize your rights.

Either way it is hard for people to weigh the options. I have been to a few different campuses visiting friends and it seems that crime is very common there.
 
As the others have said, if your address is officially off campus, then do what you want. Carrying on campus is at your discretion, as long as you accept the consequences for anything that may happen.
 
Either you are on campus or your not. If you are not, you are within your legal rights to own a gun to protect your home.
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+1. It's either legal or not. If it is, keep firearms and don't think twice about it.
 
Its either legal to keep a gun in your residence or not. I doubt it is illegal in the situation you describe if whatever gun possession/acquisition laws in your state are obeyed.

Who cares what the PD thinks? As long as you are obeying the law, and not being stupid about it, they are unlikely to get involved.

I am not suggesting you should be taking sight pictures out your front window though. Discretion is often a good idea, even if not a legal requirement.
 
Here in Colorado a university may make a policy against firearms and expell anyone who is a student that violates . As a non student ( parent ) i may be asked to leave the university property , and if i refuse may be charged with tresspass . However having a gun ( undetected ) has no legal burden in my state for a university . Now a high school or grade school is different since they are prohibited places ( note that CO has had colombine , and other kid school shootings but no va tec ) . As a side note my daughters juco has no policy on it so she may or may not at her choice carry concealed ( she does have a cc permit ) as a student .
 
+1 for DMK. Where's the ambiguity?

Having said that, in Utah, (Utah county in particular,) There's a running controversy about housing which is on the "BYU approved list". If landlords want their housing endorsed by the university, they have to allow all kinds of baby-sitting behavioral rules, whether the tenants are with BYU or a neighboring institution. Even if your landlord has no specific law, there could be some kind of university guideline in place they don't want to upset. OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND.
 
From the rather confusing phrasing of the opening post, it seems as though the apartment itself is not on the university's property. If such be the case, a Texas resident can have whatever is not on BATFE's no-no list.

Toting on campus is subject to the university's rules.
 
Yes, I would risk it, only if I trust who else is in the apt with the same trust I have in myself with firearms. As far as the PD understanding, it is legal in my state law-wise to carry on campus with a carry permit so it is on me most of the time anyways. The landlord, well sometimes policies that are better for the mass arn't good for your general safety, so unless your landlords a armed guard to assist in everyones own safety 24/7, I say wing it so long as there are no real legal consequences in your state for violating the terms of the lease.
 
You're either on campus property or you're not.
On campus you have campus rules as well as state and local law to comply with. If off campus property you only have state and local law to comply with.
Am I missing something or is this somehow complicated by some other issue?
 
I dealt with the police and university officials for having a firearm on university property in my university apartment. It's entirely legal in Texas, as long as it's your residence.

So don't worry about it.
 
I lived 'on the line' at NIU in DeKalb, IL in 93/94. On campus and Dekalb police observed rather rigid lines of autrhority--to the point of occasional absurdity over minor details. I wouldn't dance around your yard with a gun, but the law is the law.
 
Given the fact that I attend a major University in Chicago, and am always armed with a .45 Automatic while there, I would say, yes, I would "risk" it.

I place the quotation marks around the word "risk" because the real risk is in being unarmed.

If the NIU shooting had occurred in one of the classes I attend, I think things would have turned out a whole lot different.

Sincerely,

.45StayAlive
 
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In my state at least (Washington) it is not illegal to carry on a college campus. It is against the School Policy, but not against the law. A student could be disaplined up to and including expulsion, but an ordinary Joe can not be charged with a crime. The most that could happen is that the college could "Tresspass" you, meaning they could tell you to leave. Only then could you be charged with a crime, and then only if you refused to leave.

There are two bills in my state legislature right now, on each side of this issue. One would make it illegal to carry on campus, the other would extend state Pre-emption to college campuses. Neighter is going anywhere this year.
 
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