Would you turn them in?

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Reading another thread about the value of guns going down if an outright ban was passed got me curious.

If Congress passed a complete gun ban, what would you do? Would you turn your guns over to them? Or, maybe just the ones bought through dealers, but not face-to-face purchases?

Would you fight/go to war against the government or law enforcement? Do you think the military would side with gun owners/the public, or follow orders and support the government? I remember when I took the oath, "...to support the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic..." Since any such law would be unconstitutional, to me it would be an easy choice.
 
This topic never gets old. What surprises me is that so many of you think that the NFA of 34, the GCA of 68, the Hughes Amendment of 86, the Brady Bill of 93, the AWB of 94, and the California BMG Regulation Act of 2004 were all unconsitutional, yet no one took up arms then. I keep reading all these people saying they are going to defend the constitution when the times comes, but it would seem that time has come and gone.

Are you going to do it when then next assault weapons ban happens? Or maybe after the federal 50 caliber ban? Those will probably go unanswered, too. Perhaps when they go for centerfire rifles, is that unconstitutional enough?

As I've said many times, no one, and by no one I mean a statistically insignificant number, is going to be taking up arms if the time ever comes. Things will be too far gone by then. As much as it would fulfill your Red Dawn fantasy, they aren't going to one day declare all guns illegal and come door to door for them.

The time to stop that is now. It absolutely baffles me how so many people will declare that they will fight off the forces of the man with such gusto, but you so rarely see these same people organizing marches, rallies, letter writing campaigns, sponsoring shooting activities for kids, volunteering at a shooting range, or doing so many things that would be useful today.

If the Bill of Rights means so much to you that you would kill or die to defend, why aren't more of you doing the much easier, much less drastic, and much more effective things you can do now?
 
I sure do hope the the military would side with us. And if they did, I am pretty sure that gun owners and the armed forces could easily take control of the government.

I would not turn my guns in, only two guns are in my name, but they are two of my favorites.
 
no ones taken my gun collection while im alive, i can tell you that, i have to much money, time, ect. into it...

one option though would be i would turn in my registered ones (bought through delaers, on paper) IF and ONLY IF i was fully refunded...

and i would hide my guns that arnt on paper for if SHTF...
 
Reading another thread about the value of guns going down if an outright ban was passed got me curious.
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Monetary loss would be about the last thing on my mind in the event of a sweeping ban.

Would you fight/go to war against the government or law enforcement? Do you think the military would side with gun owners/the public, or follow orders and support the government? I remember when I took the oath, "...to support the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic..." Since any such law would be unconstitutional, to me it would be an easy choice.
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Bingo. As you said, it would be an unconstitutional law; we would have a duty as Americans to fight it with any means necessary. Obviously a diplomatic solution would be prefereable to bloodshed, but if it comes to that..............

There aren't too many things I'm willing to die for, and even in this case not for the possessions alone, but for the very fabric of this nation that would unravel very quickly if we were to lose a constitutional right.
 
There will NEVER, I repeat, NEVER be a confiscation of guns in the US. First off, there are too many guns for this to be enforceable, second, Americans never take kindly to the whole "confiscation" thing.

Every time this thread comes up, I say the same thing:

It will never get worse than the old AWB. Any more strict and bubba starts getting mad you took his hunting rifle and it also confuses people into what is and isn't an AW.

"The Ban" will NEVER occur.
 
Interestingly, value might go UP if there's an outright ban.

No more transfer fees or sales tax, either.:)

They can have all my guns. Bullets first.
 
One thing to remember is that the military is pretty much a cross section of America with about the same percentage of gun owner/enthusiasts among the ranks as among the general public. I'm reminded of a video clip I saw of an Oklahoma National Guardsman being interviewed about his part in the NOLA gun confiscation and his comments to the effect that, "It didn't feel quite right but orders were orders. "(iirc) While I think there would be a few die hard (pun intended) hold outs, the vast majority of will hand them over with not so much as a mean face made at the JBTs that come for them.
 
I sure do hope the the military would side with us. And if they did, I am pretty sure that gun owners and the armed forces could easily take control of the government.
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You really think Private Smith is going to disobey? I think the way it would be handled would finesse a lot of the fence sitters into doing as they are told.

I sure hope that your idea of the military siding with us is solely to resist unlawful orders. The idea of the US military running the place is worse than the idea of the Clintons taking over again.

I think it will be very hard to get the military to openly help the feds enslave the rest of us.

A more likely course of events is to create more and more law enforcement agencies and agents to do it. Its slower, but so far it has worked pretty good for the slavers.

Madmike wrote a pretty decent book that describes in some detail just how such a thing could come about.
 
Most people wouldn't do anything, those that did would be branded as using one or all of the "right wing racist extremist paramilitary terrorist militia" tags and a large majority of the gun owning population would probably turn those few people that did fight back into the government if the evening news spun it the right way. That doesn't even take into account the liberals and the soccer moms that don't even own any guns to begin with.

I'd like to say that I'd fight if things went too far (at what point that is exactly I'm not sure since everything seems to be heading towards the crapper as it is), but should all guns become illegal in truth I'd probably just bury most of what I had and just watch it all go by without getting myself or my family hurt unless something big happened that had a chance in hell of being successful. If it was a case of everybody fighting back because it was some sort of invasion by foreign troops occupying or invading your land then it might be different. But it's alot harder when it's your own government and they take away rights a little at a time and where no one's unified in anything. I wouldn't consider myself a coward by any means, but I'm not getting my head chopped off and have my family end up in some re-education camp because of some Rambo fantasy that has no hope of winning.

Not exactly a heroic and an awe inspiring story I know, but it's the truth.
 
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I'd fight it legally in the courts.

If need be, yes I would turn them over...

and then continue fighting in the courts to get them back.
 
There will NEVER, I repeat, NEVER be a confiscation of guns in the US. First off, there are too many guns for this to be enforceable, second, Americans never take kindly to the whole "confiscation" thing.
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um... Never except for in New Orleans following Hurricane Katrina.

There are also a lot of Aussie former gun owners that thought the same thing.
 
IF and When that law is passed you will see voting like we saw in Nov of 94 where there was a wholesale shift in the political spectrum in American politics. (Only fair to say other factors came into play as well)

It was a message everyone except the Republicans voted into office remembered. Not too many politicians are ready to make the same mistake that the Dems did in Oct of 94. So far.

THAT was power in action.

Remind them. Often.
 
I don't think it's a good idea to talk about this on a public forum.
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I disagree. What's happening in Iraq? One month's worth of auto fatalities killed in 5 years of combat and the Democrats have declared defeat. Insurgency here would be orders of magnitude worse and this reality needs be made very clear to them before they try to impliment such a thing!


What surprises me is that so many of you think that the NFA of 34, the GCA of 68, the Hughes Amendment of 86, the Brady Bill of 93, the AWB of 94, and the California BMG Regulation Act of 2004 were all unconsitutional, yet no one took up arms then.
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None of these took lawful guns out of legal hands, they just prevented new guns with these banned characterists from joining the pool -- not that this wasn't bad, but not bad enough to rile up the herd beyond costing Clinton his Democratic Crongress after the AWB.

--wally.
 
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