Wow! Long video but worth it!

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Could you maybe give us a summary?

And for the record, I'm really getting tired of folks posting links to videos without a word of what they contain. It takes five seconds to write two sentences, ya know?
 
Great video!

For a summary, a couple of jerk hillbillies follow and taunt a man in a nice car. He eventually stops in a secluded area. They pull out a bat to smash up his car and he steps out with his pistol to tell 'em off.

Priceless.
 
Is that what it is?


If so, that serves perfectly to illustrate my point. If everyone who posted a link to a video here would do us the simple favor of posting even the shortest description, we'd have a heck of a lot of this kind of stuff.

But yeah - that particular vid has been posted. A lot. And it is fake.
 
Totally staged. I think this went through a thread a year or so ago. From the accents, the guys in the truck are most likely Canadian.
 
Picard - there's been numerous threads on this video in the past, and it's been verified as fake. I can't find the thread at the moment, but if memory serves, someone was actually able to track down the folks who made it and got it "from the horse's mouth", as the saying goes.
 
Fake or not there are lessons here. The guy with the gun escalated or provoked a reaction by giving the bird. Was he in reasonable fear of death or serious bodily harm when he drew his gun? Absolutely! But prosecutors will argue that the thugs wouldn't have followed him if he hadn't provoked them. Also, what was legitimate self defense was turned into an armed robbery when he took thier camera. Knowing it was all on tape I would have told them that I was taking the camera as evidence and that I would turn it over to the local cops. I would have then signed assault and harassment complaints against the thugs. He also should have called 911 long before he went down that dead end road. How will the cops react when the punks call first, state that they have been robbed, and give thier location? What will the cops do when they see the car, find the stolen camera, and find the gun? If the video captured the driver telling the punks that he was taking the camera as evidence it could be used to press a false report charge if the punks had called the cops and said they were robbed.

Think before you act!
 
I thought it was gonna be the video on not talking to the cops.

Yes it's fake on the website it was originally posted on the actors stated it was fake
 
was still good!!!

No, it wasn't. It gives some pretty poor examples of how you should be acting if you have to use a firearm in self-defense. Since C1ogden pretty much nailed it in his post above, I'll just copy & paste it again, in case you missed it. Heck, I'll actually break it down for ya.

Fake or not there are lessons here. The guy with the gun escalated or provoked a reaction by giving the bird.

Yup. Escalation is bad. As a CCW holder, you should be doing everything you possibly can to aviod confrontation. Flipping off an obviously aggressive driver isn't the best way to avoid confrontation.

Was he in reasonable fear of death or serious bodily harm when he drew his gun? Absolutely! But prosecutors will argue that the thugs wouldn't have followed him if he hadn't provoked them.

Exactly. Even without a gun, you're responsible for your actions - having a gun makes you the one who's gotta be the peacemaker - because if things go bad, you've got an impressive amount of force at your disposal. That comes with huge responsibility.

Also, what was legitimate self defense was turned into an armed robbery when he took thier camera.
+1. I can understand wanting to make sure that there was still a chain of evidence, but at that point, he's a guy with a gun demanding the others individuals hand over their property. Doesn't look good.

Knowing it was all on tape I would have told them that I was taking the camera as evidence and that I would turn it over to the local cops.

Yep. Even then it's risky, but at least you've covered your butt to some degree.


He also should have called 911 long before he went down that dead end road. How will the cops react when the punks call first, state that they have been robbed, and give thier location? What will the cops do when they see the car, find the stolen camera, and find the gun? If the video captured the driver telling the punks that he was taking the camera as evidence it could be used to press a false report charge if the punks had called the cops and said they were robbed.

Big, huge, MASSIVE +1. He who calls the cops first, wins. You get your side of the story out there first, and they're the one's who have to play catch-up. They're criminals, which means that they're not going to have a problem lying and spinning things to make you look like the bad guy.

Think before you act!

Bingo!
 
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