XD or CZ?

[cruffler]

There is only one, true Cruffler answer to your quandary my son. .. .


BOTH!

 

[PCRCCW]

Gray........small correction. The PO1 has a Sig style decocker...no trigger work is needed. You just decock it......
Shoot well.....

 

[clipse]

I suppose pulling the trigger is one way to decock the gun. I would just push the little decocking lever down and keep my finger off the trigger to decock my P-01. Seems safer to me.


clipse

 

[Grayrider]

Ah..I did not know that. Better than the one on the 75 a friend of mine has then. Having said that, sounds like a toss up to me. Get the one you like the best and shoot the heck out of it!



GR

 

[Plinkerton]

I actually don't even care for a decocker. I almost rather the p-01 didn't have one. The 75-b seems to have everything I would want, safety wise, and would rather not have another thing to have to mess with. But, oh well. I think I will prefer the size of the p-01 to the standard ones.

Cruffler: Don't worry, I'm sure I will have both sooner than I think! I do like them both, so this is more of a "which one should I get right now" question. I'm going for the CZ. I've always been intrigued by them, as they seem a little rare and unheard of, even though they really aren't.

And they're legal in California!

 

[XD40EZO]

XD of course.

Although it really took me a while to warm up to it (I thought it was just another Glock wanna be, and I really don't like glocks). I have been a "Large-Frame" carrier and shooter for years. I carried (on me) a Beretta 96 for 5 years.

I've shot CZ's numerous times (rentals), but I wasnt that impressed, but then again they're probably out of caliber since they were rentals.

 

[Plinkerton]

I have a question about the CZ P-01, vs. the 75 B. Is there any reason the 75 is "better" than the P-01? I know the 01 has an alloy frame. Also, is the grip length noticeable shorter? Is it still comfortable? (I realize it's different for everyone, but I'm just looking for some general consensus).

I like the 01 overall better than the 75, but I don't want to make a bad choice, because I want something more "tactical", as that really isn't very important in all reality.

Just to remind everyone, this won't be a carry gun. Just a range/home defense gun. I would like the capability to at a taclight, but if not, it's okay.

Thanks again.

 

[Sawdust]

Plinkerton sez:

Overall, I just want the "better" gun. By better, I just mean better built, overall quality, etc.

Oh. Then you would want a S&W 5906, then.

Sawdust

 

[pauli]

as i understand it, the p01 is, operationally, a compact 75bd. i can't say i see the point in getting a compact version, if it's just a range gun.

 

[Maxer51tx]

The p01 is an improved version of the 75bd, in compact form, not just a small version of that gun. Also one of the Czech government testing criteria was that it be as accurate as the fullsize 75b. It passed this accuracy requirement. Still I think it excels as a carry gun.

For range purposes, I'd want a single action trigger and the heft of steel. In other words, 75b.

Most important, though, as others have said, get the one that feels best and points best for you.

 

[Plinkerton]

The 01 is SA/DA though right? Essentially, I could get away with never shooting it DA, by loading in a new clip, or cocking the hammer before the first shot right? My friend's 1911 is SA only, of course, and he never has to cock the hammer, because when ever he chambers the first round, it cocks the hammer. It seems the same thing would be happening when I shot this gun at the range.

The 01 seems to be more along the size of the Service XD's anyway, so I don't mind the smaller size overall, even though, I understand it's not really needed. I wish I could find a few out here to shoot. Maybe some one at the gun club will have one.

Thanks

 

[sturmruger]

I consider my XD40 to be one of my best purchases ever. It is a very fine gun!

 

[pauli]

iirc, cz likes to say "single action with second strike capability," which sums up traditional da/sa guns perfectly. they operate just like a 1911, but if the round fails to go off, you can just pull the trigger a second time.

 

[45R]

XD/CZ...they are both winners.

 

[railroader]

I have both, the cz75b and the hs2000(xd9). I like them equally but the cz is a tad more accurate. I do like the grip a bit better on the HS2000. I don't know where you live in cali but if you are anywhere around the inland empire (San Bernardino/Riverside) you can shoot them both if you want before you buy. Mark

 

[Gusgus]

Too bad you weren’t interested in these two guns a few years ago. You could have owned both for just a little more than what you'll pay for a XD today.

My 3rd Gen HS2000 was only $259, and my CZ-75B (Turk military version)was around $300. I love them both, and really wouldn't want to choose between them.

Man, how times have changed. Back when the HS2000 was first being imported, those of us who owned and recommended them where laughed at and ridiculed by many on TFL. Now that they have Springfield's stamp, and cost twice as much, they're now great guns. Sheesh. My only regret is that I didn't buy two or three when the gett'n was good.

 

[Majic]

Nobody wanted an XD when they were the HS2000, just another peice of Eastern European trash, like those cheap CZ garbage.

Well I beg to differ here. The CZ-75 was highly sought after when they hit the market, but because they were produced behind the "Iron Curtain" they couldn't be directly imported to the USA. A Canadian company made a good business buying the CZs and exporting them to the US market. Then other countries (England, Italy, Switzerland, and others) jumped on the bandwagon and began producing CZ clones. Garbage or trash was one thing the CZ-75 was never called. It really was the very first "Wondernine" and that name was coined from it.

 

[Moonclips]

The XD is a functional tool. While the CZ75 has the classic lines and all-steel contruction. Get both!

 

[armoredman]

Majic, I am being heavily sarcastic - I was the one who got the local shop to become a CZ dealer, left CZ Forum cards everywhere, have carried both a CZ Compact and CZ clones for years, and my loving wife is getting her very own CZ RAMI this weekend. What I was referring to was the ongoing bias I got at both ranges I worked at over my "Eurotrash", as THEY called it, not me! These are the 1911/Smith revolver/Ruger auto crowd/"if it ain't made in "X" country, it ain't no dang good!" people.
CZUB has made quality firearms for years, and I would happily depend my life on one at any given time, as evey one I have fired was excellent. Do rememberm anyone wanting/having a CZ pistol, there are two more accessories you need....grips from Hakan http://www.imageseek.com/hakan/ And a holster or two from Eric http://www.imageseek.com/hbeleather/ .

BTW, I am also trying to get CZ approved as an off duty weapon in my Dept....

 

[SLCDave]

I love my XD40. I probably would get the stainless version if I had it to do over again. That's the only complaint I have, is the finish. My next handgun purchase will most likely be a CZ97.

 

[bradvanhorn]

...this won't be a carry gun. Just a range/home defense gun. I would like the capability to at a taclight, but if not, it's okay.

Get a Springfield XD Tactical!

I have recently invested in both CZs and XDs. In fact my range bag now has my CZ 75 B SA on one side and my Springfield XD Tactical on the other. If I were forced to choose one over the other I'd probably go with the XD, but the vote would be like 50.1% to 49.9% - they are both just great guns.

 

[cratz2]

I believe the CZ P-01/PCR and the 4" XD are among the finest semi autos abvailable on a relative budget. I've shot several of each and have ALWAYS came away impressed. To me, the PCR is the ideal out of the box pistol considering ergonomics, reliability, size/weight and cost. I do wish that they would come out with a light DAO version without the decocker. If they could get the trigger to feel like the double action pull of my well-used PCR but with maybe two less pounds of pull weight and get rid of the decocker to make it just a bit trimmer, and maybe come out with one in 45GAP eek: ) I'd be very happy.

Having said that, I like Glocks and XDs but think I'd lean slightly towards the XD if I didn't own either. They are fine guns with a lot of positive attributes to them. Though my instinct is to say the CZ is the right choice, I don't think you could go wrong with either of them.

 

[afvoo52]

I have owned both, I still have the CZ 75B, the XD is a fine gun and I consider the guns you mention as having different usage. The Xd is more of a concealment all day carry gun used for defensive shooting. The CZ can be concealed and carried but not as easily, but the CZ will in my experience outshoot the XD by a landslide and is a lot less ammo sensative in terms of accuracy. My 75B feeds everything including reloads and in over 2000 rounds never a failure. I have heard of feed failures in some older CZ pre B series but never saw one first hand. The CZ guns are excellent design and quality, the only thing I had to do to mine is lube the trigger as when dry it was REALLY rough, but with Tetra lube it is slick as can be. I have never owned a 9MM that I have liked more or had more fun with than my CZ75B.

 

[txgolfer45]

Of those two, I'd pick the CZ75. I don't care for the XD. Personally, I love my G19. I like the way the CZ points and shoots. All metal makes recoil almost nil.

Scott

 

[Catbird]

I have a:

1. HS2000 (pre-XD9)
2. XD40 (w/ extra Bar-Sto .357SIG barrel)
3. CZ 75B (duo-tone)
4. CZ P-01
5. CZ RAMI (9mm)

It's really a hard choice, but if I had to pick a favorite, it would be the CZ P-01.