You can't shoot anyone in your home in Texas or El Tejon is proven right

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Since I am tired of seeing members make posts here that the Brady organization could use against us, I've been doing some research into how the law that so many members feel gives them Carte Blanche to shoot anyone they find in their home for any reason in Texas is actually applied.

Exhibit A: Torres v. State of Texas Dallas County

FACTS

Valdez and Roxanne Espinosa dated for several years. Eventually the two moved in to an apartment with Roxanne's aunt, Diane. The relationship between Roxanne and Valdez was not always smooth. Valdez sometimes assaulted Roxanne because he suspected she had been seeing other men. Because of one incident, an assault charge was brought against Valdez. (1)

During the week Valdez was killed, Roxanne moved out of the apartment because Valdez had assaulted her again. She stayed temporarily with friends, including the appellant. The appellant learned that Valdez was looking for him and that Valdez had assaulted Roxanne before. Later in the week, Roxanne called Diane, who told her that Valdez had moved out. Roxanne decided to return to the apartment. That day, Roxanne spoke to Valdez. He told her that he loved her and would leave her alone. As a result of these conversations and the fact Valdez had removed his clothes from the apartment, Roxanne assumed that he would not return.

Roxanne invited the appellant to stay the night at the apartment. Roxanne did not think that Valdez would attack the appellant, but she convinced him to stay with her because if Valdez went looking for the appellant he would probably look at the appellant's home. Roxanne did not tell the appellant that Valdez might come to her apartment, but the appellant brought a gun with him anyway.

The next morning, the appellant awoke and washed up. When he returned to the bedroom, around 6:30 a.m., he and Roxanne heard a noise outside. Roxanne saw Valdez, yelled "it's him," and ran to Diane's bedroom to call 911. Valdez climbed up to the balcony and entered the bedroom through the sliding glass door. As Roxanne was calling the police, she heard a thump and two gun shots. The appellant fled the apartment, but Roxanne stayed in Diane's room until the police arrived. Valdez was found in a sitting position on the commode with one superficial bullet wound to his abdomen and a fatal bullet wound to his face. The appellant was later apprehended in Colorado.

At trial, the appellant claimed that he acted in self-defense. Two witnesses testified that Valdez had gone to the apartment to pick up his belongings, but Roxanne said that she believed Valdez was in a jealous rage. After Roxanne testified, but before the appellant testified, the defense offered part of Diane's testimony outside the presence of the jury. Diane testified that a few days before Valdez was killed, he climbed through an apartment window and asked where Roxanne was. When Diane responded that she did not know, Valdez said, "If you don't tell me, I'm going to do something to you and your kids." Although Valdez did not use the word "kill," Diane testified that she was afraid Valdez's words were a threat against her life. The trial court excluded the testimony. The jury convicted the appellant and sentenced him to 25 years imprisonment.

The Court of Appeals affirmed the conviction. Torres v. State, No. 05-97-01308-CR, slip op. at 1 (Tex. App.-Dallas June 21, 2000) (not designated for publication). The appellant averred that the excluded testimony was relevant to his defense to show that Valdez was the first aggressor and to corroborate his version of the facts. Id. at 5. The Court of Appeals disagreed and held that, since the appellant was not aware of Valdez's threat to Diane, and because the threat was directed at Diane and not the appellant, the excluded testimony was relevant to the appellant's defense only for "its tendency to prove Valdez was acting in conformity with his violent, threatening character." Id. at 7. We granted review to determine whether the Court of Appeals properly concluded that the testimony was only relevant to character conformity. (2) We will reverse and remand.

DISCUSSION

A trial court's decision to admit or exclude evidence is reviewed under an abuse of discretion standard. Burden v. State, 55 S.W.3d 608, 615 (Tex. Crim. App. 2001). An appellate court will not reverse a trial court's ruling unless that ruling falls outside the zone of reasonable disagreement. Id.

A defendant in a homicide prosecution who raises the issue of self-defense may introduce evidence of the deceased's violent character. Tex. R. Evid. 404(a)(2); (3) Tate v. State, 981 S.W.2d 189, 192-93 (Tex. Crim. App. 1999); Thompson v. State, 659 S.W.2d 649, 653 (Tex. Crim. App. 1983). The defendant may offer opinion or reputation testimony to prove the deceased acted in conformity with his violent nature. Tex. R. Evid. 404(a)(2) and 405(a); Tate, 981 S.W.2d at 192. Specific, violent acts of misconduct may be admitted to show the reasonableness of the defendant's fear of danger, or to show that the deceased was the first aggressor. But specific acts are admissible only to the extent that they are relevant for a purpose other than character conformity. Tex. R. Evid. 404(b); Mozon v. State, 991 S.W2d 841, 845-46 (Tex. Crim. App. 1999); Tate, 981 S.W.2d at 193.

In the context of proving the deceased was the first aggressor, we have held that specific, violent acts are relevant apart from showing character conformity by demonstrating the deceased's intent, motive, or state of mind. (4) Tate, 981 S.W.2d at 193; see 1 Steven Goode, Olin Guy Wellborn, III, & M. Michael Sharlot, Texas Practice: Guide to the Texas Rules of Evidence: Civil and Criminal § 404.4, at 157 (2d ed. 1993 & Supp. 2001) (noting specific, violent acts are admissible to show that the deceased had a motive or intent to be the first aggressor). "Because [generally] the key issue here is the state of mind of the deceased, 'the witness must know but it need not be shown that the appellant had knowledge of the acts of violence of the deceased at the time of the homicide.'" (5) Lewis v. State, 463 S.W.2d 186, 188 (Tex. Crim. App. 1971). (6)

Before a specific, violent act is introduced, however, there must be some evidence of a violent or aggressive act by the deceased that tends to raise the issue of self-defense and that the specific act may explain. Thompson, 659 S.W.2d at 653-54 ("Often that evidence . . . is ambiguous . . . . Thus it is the rule that reputation evidence concerning the defendant's character or prior specific acts of violence committed by him are admissible in so far as they tend to explain the deceased's conduct."); Lewis, 463 S.W.2d at 188; Goode, Wellborn, & Sharlot, supra § 404.4, at 158; cf. Tate, 981 S.W.2d at 193 (noting that the specific act shed light on the deceased's state of mind and demonstrated the intent or motive behind the confrontation).

The Court of Appeals assumed without deciding that the proper predicate, an aggressive act, had been sufficiently raised by Roxanne's testimony. Torres, slip op. at 8. It held that, because Valdez's threat was directed towards Diane and not the appellant, the proffered testimony was only relevant to show Valdez acted in conformity with his character. Id. at 7. We disagree with this conclusion. (7)

When a defendant claims that the deceased was the first aggressor, prior specific acts of violence relevant to the ultimate confrontation may be offered to show a deceased's state of mind, intent, or motive. (8) Tate, 981 S.W.2d at 193; Lewis, 463 S.W.2d at 188. We have not required that the specific, violent acts be directed against the defendant to be admissible. In fact, we have found error in excluding such acts where they were directed towards third parties. See Jenkins v. State, 625 S.W.2d 324, 325-27 (Tex. Crim. App. [Panel Op.] 1981) (testimony concerning the deceased's conviction for attempted murder of a third party was admissible to show the deceased was the first aggressor); Lewis, 463 S.W.2d at 187-88 (evidence that the deceased often carried a knife and got in barroom brawls, along with a threat against the defendant, was admissible). For purposes of proving that the deceased was the first aggressor, the key is that the proffered evidence explains the deceased's conduct. Cf. Tate, 981 S.W.2d at 193 (noting that the proffered evidence tended to shed light on the deceased's conduct); Thompson, 659 S.W.2d at 654 (noting that the proffered evidence need only explain the deceased's current aggressive conduct, especially were the conduct may be ambiguous). As long as the proffered violent acts explain the outward aggressive conduct of the deceased at the time of the killing, and in a manner other than demonstrating character conformity only, prior specific acts of violence may be admitted even though those acts were not directed against the defendant. See Tate, 981 S.W.2d at 193; Thompson, 656 S.W.2d at 654; Jenkins, 625 S.W.2d at 327; Lewis, 463 S.W.2d at 188.

Here, the proffered testimony revealed that, two days before he was killed, Valdez entered the apartment by climbing through a window. He threatened Diane and her children that "he would do something to [them]" if she did not tell him where Roxanne was. This shows a mind set of violence against those who might stand between him and Roxanne. It could also explain Valdez's unorthodox entry by demonstrating the intent or motive of getting back with Roxanne one way or another, or keeping others away from Roxanne by violence if necessary. Because the proffered testimony was probative of the deceased's state of mind, intent, and motive, we hold that the Court of Appeals erred in concluding that the evidence was relevant only to character conformity. See Tate, 981 S.W.2d at 193; Lewis, 463 S.W.2d at 188.

CONCLUSION

The Court of Appeals held that the excluded testimony was relevant only to character conformity. Because of this conclusion, it did not perform a harm analysis. The Court of Appeals, however, also assumed without deciding that: 1) the trial judge was properly put on notice as to the defendant's theory of admissibility; and 2) Roxanne's testimony showed an aggressive act that would allow the introduction of the proffered testimony. Accordingly, we reverse the judgment of the Court of Appeals and remand to that court to determine whether this alleged error was properly preserved for appellate review and whether the proper predicate for Diane's testimony was laid by Roxanne's testimony and, depending on the Court of Appeals's resolution of that issue, to perform the appropriate harm analysis. (9)


Delivered April 3, 2002.

Publish.

I have been unable to determine if Torres was acquitted at his new trial with the testimony of Valdez's prior violence and threats. But that's not the issue here. The issue is that Torres was tried and convicted and sentenced to 25 years for the murder of Valdez. No special provision of Texas law kept him from being arrested or kept the police from investigating. He was charged, tried and convicted of murder for shooting an intruder in a residence he was staying at.

Jeff
 
so the dead guy had moved all of his stuff out less than a week before... in most states you have to be gone from a residence for at least 14 days before you are not considered a resident... and since this guy had not been evicted or otherwise legally prohibited from being on the property... he was legally entering his legally established residence...

the person that shot him had not established residency in that location as he had only stayed there one night... so therefore the person that shot was not a resident and shot a resident while said resident was entering the residence that he had a legal right to be in...

not only that, there is no specific allegation that the resident that was shot made any threat or acted in any way that was threatening to the person that shot him...

please change the title of your thread... the person that shot the "intruder" was not in his own home...
 


Do you really believe an Illinois cop's going to admit he's wrong - again?

Friday, May 09, 2008


Fort Worth, Texas

From CBS11 of May 9, 2008
Neighbor Shoots, Kills Donut Shop Robber

A Fort Worth homeowner shot and killed a man who broke into a donut shop next to his house.

According to reports, the man heard commotion coming from the parking lot of the neighboring store in the 100 Block of Roberts Cut Off Road and went to investigate.

Police said the would-be robber broke the glass and demanded money from the female donut shop owner, who was back in the store Friday morning after talking to police.

Chong Im Randle said her promises to customers prompted her return to the store despite a headache and possible bruise on the back of her head.

"We have orders that have to be delivered," she said.

Authorities are questioning the neighbor, but it's not expected he'll face any charges.

Just last week, this same Happy Donut location was robbed. Randle believes it was the same man who attacked her this morning.

When asked if she was scared at the early morning break-in, she shrugged her shoulders and said: "If he shoots me, I know I go to heaven."

http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefenseblog/labels/TX.html

Tuesday, October 16, 2007

Tipped off by pet parrot, Dallas homeowner shoots burglar in the act
By Pegasus News wire

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DALLAS — At 1:30 a.m. on Tuesday, Dennis Baker, 59, was minding his own business, fast asleep, when Salvador, his Mexican red-headed pet parrot, began saying "hello". "Hello hello hello." Baker, recognizing even in his sleep that "hello" is what the parrot says when he sees someone, and keeping in mind that Baker had been burglarized four times in the past month, arose and got his gun, and found a man, one John Woodson, 46, in his garage, loading up loot. So he shot him.

According to the DMN, Baker owns several birds. Also, when the police arrived, the parrot said "hello" to them, too.

http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2007/oct/16/tipped-pet-parrot-dallas-homeowner-shoots-burglar-/

Homeowner Who Shot Intruder Had Two Break-Ins In One Night
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The homeowner told police he was protecting his family when he grabbed a gun to shoot a man breaking into his house. (News 4)
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Neighbors of a homeowner who shot and killed a man he caught sneaking into his house are speaking out about the shooting and crime in their area.

The shooting happened around 2 a.m. in the 5800 block of Midcrown, just off of Eisenhauer Road on the Northeast Eide. Police said it was the burglar's strange noises that woke the homeowner and his family.

The homeowner and his family were the victims of two break-ins overnight. The homeowner told police he was protecting his family when he grabbed a gun to shoot a man breaking into his house.

"He said that he heard some noises coming from the kitchen area. He came out of the bedroom, saw the suspect standing in the kitchen, and said he was going through some things by his computer, and that he told him to freeze," explained San Antonio Police Department Spokesman Gabe Trevino.

The homeowner told investigators the burglar then started running.

Police said the homeowner fired several shots as the intruder was running through the kitchen and out this back door. They said the homeowner chased the man to the side of the house where he fired several more shots.

The noise woke-up several neighbors along Midcrown.

"I heard about 4 shots, I thought," said neighbor Maggie McFadden. "And then there was a pause. And then I heard about two more shots."

One of those bullets hit the burglar in the back and killed him according to police.
They said the homeowner believes it's the same man who broke into his home hours earlier to steal money.

"You never know, if they didn't catch him, whose house they'll go in next, you know" McFadden told News 4.

Neighbors like McFadden say break-ins are increasing in the area. She said she feared it was only a matter of time before someone got hurt.

"With all the killings and the muggings and stuff nowadays, you never know what's going to happen to you," McFadden said.

As of right now police say they are not filing criminal charges on the homeowner because Texas law allows you to defend your property during a burglary.

The medical examiner is now working to identify the suspect.

http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=58883561-fbe2-4846-8a39-cdc1591b3e7e

 
please change the title of your thread... the person that shot the "intruder" was not in his own home...

Nope I won't change it. You can't change the fact that Torrez was where he was legally permitted to be. Are you trying to say that so called Castle Doctrine laws don't permit you to defend your inlaws, girlfriend's, boyfriends', sister's or brother's home?

kersch, you my friend are the one that needs to admit you are wrong. People are in fact arrested, charged, tried, convicted and sent to prison for shooting people inside their home in Texas. Just like they are everywhere else. As El Tejon said, castle doctrine is not some protective fog that lets you get away with shooting anyone you feel like. All shootings are investigated and if the circumstances don't meet the requirements of the law, you can be arrested, charged, tried, convicted and sent to prison. EVEN IN TEXAS. This case proves it.

Jeff
 
"He was charged, tried and convicted of murder for shooting an intruder in a residence he was staying at."

What this is means to me is that you may be in the right as to self-defense, but a trial court might not allow all the pertinent evidence and you aren't held to be in self-defense.

I must say I'm somewhat surprised by the trial court, as well as the appellate court. I personally know of two cases in Texas where the reputation of the deceased was admitted, and was instrumental in the findings of the juries. (I was a witness in one, and on the jury in the other.)

Which says that the law is not giving carte blanche to the idea of shoot first and ask questions later.
 
never said that... but this guy was not in his home... he was in someone else's home... and when the person that was a legal resident entered, he shot him...

just because i invite someone to hang out with me at my house does not give them the authority to shoot my wife when she walks in... no matter what way she decides to come in...

legally, the dead guy could have kicked in the door and been committing no crime... it was his residence...

the burden of justification would be on the shooter...
 
add to that last part... if the person was attempting to enter by force and was shot through the door, that would be different... the person would be considered a threat and someone that was committing a violent felony...

but the person entered and was presumably identified before he was shot... the person shooting should have known it was the homeowner...
 
Valdez climbed up to the balcony and entered the bedroom through the sliding glass door. As Roxanne was calling the police, she heard a thump and two gun shots.

mekender,
Does this sound like a man who was entering his own residence? Now add in the fact that Roxanne was calling the police, and I don't think many people are going to buy your argument that the apartment was Valdez's residence and he had every right to be there.

I have yet to see any of the so called castle doctrine or stand your ground laws that said you were only protected at the address on your drivers license.

Jeff
 


White, the case you cherry picked is from 2002, long before Texas' "Castle Doctrine," which became effective September 1, 2007.


 
Doesn't matter kresch, you said it never happens, you have been proven wrong. Castle Doctrine is not blanket immunity to shoot anyone at anytime as you and other here are so fond of posting. Give me a little more time to dig, I'll find some more.

Jeff
 
again, in most states, you are still a resident of an address until you have spent at least 14 days at another location or you have been legally removed from the property by the courts (eviction or restraining order)... thus he was still LEGALLY a resident...

as a legal resident, there is nothing that says how you must enter the dwelling... hell at a former friends house, we would always pop the screen off his bedroom window and enter that way... that didnt mean we were breaking the law...

at my own house, if i choose to kick in the front door without unlocking the lock, i am legally allowed to do so, it is my residence... the same can be said for the above case... hell it would have been 100% legal, albeit strange, for him to cut a hole through the wall and enter that way...

simply entering a property where you have a legal right to be is not grounds for getting shot... even if your chosen method of entry is unorthodox...

as for the calling the police... what would they have done? he was a legal resident, they couldn't have made him leave unless there was a crime being committed...

and for the so called "castle doctrine" laws... most of them do not apply if the person you are using lethal force against is also legally allowed to be in the property...

i saw nothing in the quoted article that would have led me to believe that the guy was committing a crime... his past threats might have been a crime but that was at a previous place and time... there is no mention that he made threats while entering the property that he was legally allowed to be in, nor that he committed any violent actions... the only thing he did wrong was not using the front door...

now all of the stuff i have said is this stuff under LEGAL interpretation... personally, i wouldnt have convicted if i were on the jury... the shooter probably believed that his life was in immediate danger...
 
Dang it! Does this mean we violated the law playing cops & robbers when we were kids?! :neener: And we used real, high-capacity cap guns...musta been 100 rounds on a single roll!

Okay. Seriously now. The thread makes perfect sense. Common sense rules even in Castle Doctrine. I would add that if/when you can fire, doesn't mean you always should fire. Judgment had danged well better be 20/20 before-the-fact, otherwise one might end up with a boyfriend named Bubba slippin' into your prison bunk each evening.

JMHO
 
I don't know about the 14 days thing. If the guy moved out and the apartment was rented to someone else, would he still be able to come back in within the 14 days? I don't think so. He moved out on his own.
 


some norhtern cop said:
Doesn't matter kresch, you said it never happens, you have been proven wrong.

No, I said I knew of no case law in Bexar County where a person was indicted for killing an illegal intruder. Still don't.
 
Doesn't matter kresch, you said it never happens, you have been proven wrong. Castle Doctrine is not blanket immunity to shoot anyone at anytime as you and other here are so fond of posting. Give me a little more time to dig, I'll find some more.

Jeff

I believe the date of the case does matter.

The case would have more relevance if it was after the latest revision to Texas Law. I'm not saying the outcome would have been different. One can't say for sure, but the law being what it is now could certainly have affected the trial.

To claim otherwise seems disingenuous to me.
 
I don't know about the 14 days thing. If the guy moved out and the apartment was rented to someone else, would he still be able to come back in within the 14 days? I don't think so. He moved out on his own.

no, if you move out because the lease is up, you have severed the legally binding contract and are no longer a resident... but if you for example get in a fight with your GF, leave town for a week, and come back, you are still legally a resident...

and that is assuming that your name isnt on a lease... if your name is on a lease, you are a resident for as long as the lease is valid... the girl that lived there remained in the property, so the lease remained in force even if he wasnt on it, he was a resident...

i once tried to get a "friend" kicked out of my apartment because he was living on the couch... was told that i had to evict him even though he wasnt on the lease he was a resident...
 
How does a case from 2000 disprove a law that did not become effective until September 1, 2007?

This is ridiculous.

The previous poster was correct in that Valdez in this case is still a resident. Not coming home does not sever your residency.
 
The fact still remains, in the great state of Texas, if you kill an intruder in your home, you have a one in a million chance of being convicted of any offense. In a gun hating state like Illinois, you have a one in a million chance of avoiding prison.
Trust me, you kill an intruder in your own home in Texas, you will probably get a medal.
 
The fact still remains, in the great state of Texas, if you kill an intruder in your home, you have a one in a million chance of being convicted of any offense. In a gun hating state like Illinois, you have a one in a million chance of avoiding prison.
Trust me, you kill an intruder in your own home in Texas, you will probably get a medal.

while that is true, the above mentioned case is such that the person that was shot was a resident and the person doing the shooting was not a legal resident even though he was legally allowed to be inside the residence when the shooting occurred... so in fact, he did not shoot someone in his own home...
 
I believe the date of the case does matter.

The case would have more relevance if it was after the latest revision to Texas Law. I'm not saying the outcome would have been different. One can't say for sure, but the law being what it is now could certainly have affected the trial.

To claim otherwise seems disingenuous to me.

Not disingenuous, I was responding to the statement that it never happens. According to my Findlaw search, the Texas Criminal Appeals Court has not ruled on a self defense case since Walters v. Texas which is a 2004 case. That case also revolved around jury instructions on past threats:

. THE FACTS

On January, 16th, 2004, appellant drove his red truck with a trailer that "looks like a giant toothpick that carries hay" to the Tabernacle Baptist Church parking lot to test some new brakes. He hadn't driven far: Appellant lived next door to the church. He saw the church's new pastor, David Peacock, and his wife, Sunshine, standing outside the church. Appellant got out to visit and to tell Pastor Peacock that he had enjoyed the Sunday sermon. As appellant was talking to the Peacocks, his brother, Russell, pulled up in his truck with Russell's wife, Jerri. Appellant was not expecting to see his brother because of long-standing animosity between the two brothers over land, cattle, fences, taxes, insurance, and bills. Neither enjoyed their meetings. On this day, Russell wanted to talk to appellant about a water bill. Jerri stayed in their truck while Russell walked over to appellant. Appellant introduced Russell to the Peacocks, who soon went into the church.

The brothers started to argue. Jerri heard appellant say, "I've got the pasture leased for five years, and I'm not paying a damn thing." She saw appellant walk back to his truck and heard him say, "I'm leaving. I've got work to do." Russell followed him, saying, "I know the joints you go to." Jerri could not hear appellant's response, but she saw him get into his truck. Russell followed him and stood beside the truck door. Appellant started his truck motor and began moving forward while Russell walked beside him. Appellant then sped up a bit, stopped the truck, got out, turned around, and shot Russell twice. According to Jerri, it was "totally unexpected. They-they didn't even seem, really, to be fussing other than when-his tone of voice was a little angry. But it had been-they had had conversations like that before, and nothing ever happened, you know. [Appellant] would always walk off." After hearing the gunshots, Jerri screamed, jumped out of truck, looked up, and thought that Appellant might shoot her next. She ducked down and got back into her truck.

Appellant got into his truck, backed out, and, as he was pulling out of the parking lot, told Jerri, "I'm going to call for help." He drove to his home next door and called 911. Jerri ran to Russell. Pastor Peacock came out of the church and said he had called 911. The Peacocks had been on the steps of the baptistery when they heard the shots. They both testified that there was a pause between the two shots-enough time for them to look at each other like "Was that what I thought it was?"

Corporal Moon from the Sheriff's Office was first on scene. He called EMS. Meanwhile Beth Hankins, a registered nurse and "First Responder," (3) tended to Russell. Russell was transported to the hospital, where he was pronounced dead. According to the medical examiner, Russell had been shot twice: one shot entered the left side of Russell's neck and exited the right side of his back; the other entered the right side of Russell's lower back and went out the right side of the chest. Either shot could have been lethal.

Deputies Hill and Scott went to appellant's home. Appellant had been talking on the phone to the 911 operator, who, upon learning that appellant was the suspect, had called him back. Appellant had agreed to surrender peacefully and did: "We hand-cuffed him, and he went to trying to say a few things." Deputy Scott told appellant not to say anything and read him his Miranda warnings. As he was being read his rights, appellant "looked at his wife and stated, 'I just got tired of him threatening me.'" The deputies again told him to be quiet.

At trial, appellant testified that he shot his brother in self-defense with a gun that he kept in his truck for use when "checking my cattle, maybe shooting snakes or varmints." According to appellant, when he started to leave the church parking lot, he told Russell not to come asking for money anymore. Russell said that he would "come looking for" appellant and that appellant wouldn't like it. As appellant started to drive off, Russell was "as mad as the . . . as the devil" and said, "I'm going to stop you today, once and for all." Russell then reached toward the door of his truck and opened it. Appellant, scared for his life, stepped out, put one foot on the pavement and shot his brother. Appellant said that he was afraid Russell would shoot him through the door. Appellant testified that his fear was well-founded because Russell had twice before threatened him with a gun.

All of the previous cases have relevance. They will undoubtedly be referenced when the first case under the new law hits the appellate court. The law doesn't always mean what one thinks it means. It usually means what the courts interpret it to mean.

Jeff
 
First off, the shooter need not be a resident to use self-defense against a Bad Guy. It's legit to defend a third party. From that standpoint, it's the same as an employee of a business resisting a holdup.

Next, all shootings in Texas go before a Grand Jury after a police investigation. Now, how much investigation is done will vary with circumstances. If the DA thinks there is something hinky about the deal, he may seek an indictment.

In this particular case, speculating about the DA's thoughts, he may have thought the shooter acted in the absence of a real threat. The DA might have been swayed by "The appellant fled the apartment..." He presented the results of the investigation in that interpretation and thus sought and got an indictment.

Okay. The bottom line in all this, laws or no laws, is that one must exercise personal responsibility and good judgement when deadly force is involved. Yes, the law is more on the side of the good guy than in earlier times; it's more clear cut. Just don't think it makes for free-fire zones.
 
mekender, the guy moved out. It's not the same as just leaving for a couple of days. He removed his belongings. The law is different when it comes to eviction, but the guy packed up and moved out on his own. He wasn't fighting to retain his residence. He agreed to move out and did so. To me, it would seem like he gave up his right to enter the dwelling once he moved out.
 
mekender, the guy moved out. It's not the same as just leaving for a couple of days. He removed his belongings. The law is different when it comes to eviction, but the guy packed up and moved out on his own. He wasn't fighting to retain his residence. He agreed to move out and did so. To me, it would seem like he gave up his right to enter the dwelling once he moved out.

voluntarily moving your stuff out does not sever residency in most states... even if it did, i would imagine that the statutes would specify that ALL property had to be removed... so having a sock that was lost behind the dryer could qualify... i would have to look up landlord tenant law in TX, but in the two states I've lived in, you are still a resident even if you have no property in the residence...
 
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