You just can't fix stupid

[akodo]

okay that guy was a real moron.

It is also easy to get good ideas of how to interact hours after, how about this one.

Look, some of these ammos are known by a dozen different names. Some people call it 9-by-19, some call it 9mm luger, some call it 9mm parabellum, or just 9 para. It is possible some companies even call it 9 smith and wesson (which isn't technically a lie) so maybe whoever sold it to you was showing off by stating a real obscure name for it.

See, now he isn't wrong, AND blame is switched to some other guy.

 

[evan price]

Don't forget the bag of squelch.
When I was an auto mechanic we would send people to the store for camber oil.. we've got plenty of CASTOR oil, no CAMBER oil...

I also worked at Japanese plants, and kept odd tools, so I was the guy who usually spoiled the fun when the other guys would send a newbie out for a metric crescent wrench- I have a H.I.T. TOOLS 200MM crescent wrench...marked as such.

 

[Walkalong]

somewhere there is a village , with its idiot all over the side of expired milk cartons

Reminds me of one of my favorite bumper stickers.

"Your villiage called. They want their idiot back"

With those folks, you just have to quit, and hope they figure it out. You just can not help some people.

 

[CNYCacher]

Sounds like the same kind of idiot that puts E-85 in a non-FFV

Or those people who think Flex-Fuel vehicles are something new and special, that didn't exist before "Flex-Fuel" became a tailgate badge and a marketing tool.

 

[ShunZu]

Thought this pic would be appropriate

 

[BruceRDucer]

I've enjoyed this topic very much in the last week.

The same thing happened to me at Wal-Mart some time back. Some KNOW-IT-ALL was trying to tell me that there was no such thing as a Smith & Wesson Glock. Go figger!

(((( ducks )))

/

 

[Wopasaurus]

Hey, that's not so bad. I once convinced a co-worker that King Diamond was Neil Diamond's brother.

Admittedly his, ah, misunderstanding was at least half my fault.

Well... I can see how that would be a common misunderstanding... Their singing voices are so similar...

*sigh*

 

[plainsbilly]

dont forget the lead chisel or the aluminum magnetand last but not least the infamous pipe stretcher

 

[Tarvis]

You really can't fix stupid. I was talking to a guy I had just met, he was thinking about having me load him some ammo for his 30-06.
Dialog:
Me: What kind of rifle is it?
Him: It's a Winchester model 70 Springfield in 30-06
Me: Is it a Winchester or a Springfield?
Him: It's a Winchester Springfield. It's both.
Me: Hmm, I've never heard of anything like that, how old is it?
Him: I bought it 10 years ago.
Me: Are you sure it's not a Winchester mod 70 in 30-06 Springfield?
Him: Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

Gun knowledge seems to be easy to come by I guess. Just like the guy selling AR fold up sights was telling me that BUIS makes a good back up sight. He ain't never heard of no acronym before.

 

[mr.72]

I bet the guy has a S&W Sigma 9mm, which is relatively often referred to by gun bubbas as a "Smith and Wesson Glock".

Maybe the 16 has to do with the magazine capacity.

However I would say the OP was not exactly skilled at the art of argument or persuasion. No matter. But at the Wal Mart ammo counter is not the place to try and antagonize someone who is likely just making an honest mistake. I know you just thought you were trying to help but simply, arguing about what kind of gun he has is kind of a moot point. Simply saying "9mm Smith and Wesson is not a normal ammo designation, but there are a lot of Smith and Wesson guns that take standard 9mm ammo". I mean, odds are nobody with a .380 or a .40 is going to come in asking for 9mm. Has S&W ever even made a 9x18 pistol?

But frankly the only good advice for the guy would be to just say "9mm standard ammo is probably what you are looking for, but you should go check the manual or stamping on the side of your particular pistol to be sure before trying to use any ammo."

Last thing you want is to talk the guy into buying some 9x19 and then finding out that it's a poly Bersa .380 and it kabooms on him. Wrong ammo in the gun can be dangerous. There is no good solution other than encouraging him to double check his own gun.

I kind of agree, anyone who is so obviously not knowledgeable about guns may well be a recent convert. Nice going making him feel like an idiot and then posting it on the internet.

 

[CountGlockula]

Classic.

 

[Scoupe]

I usually ask for a spool of flight line or a bucket of prop-wash. Make sure you guys remember to get the winter air put in your tires in the next month or two.

I got one of the GFX interns to go ask the house engineer for cartridge of blue pixels for my monitor. I thought the engineer was gonna suffocate laughing.

 

[atblis]

My favorite

Metric Hammers.

 

[Tarvis]

Here's a question: Is there a good/effective way to tell somebody that you know what you're talking about when it comes to guns without sounding like a mall ninja? I mean, I'm not gonna tell someone I know I'm right because I'm a senior member of THR or anything. So how do you tell someone that the gun knowledge you have is far superior to theirs without sounding like them? ("them" of course referring to the guy that told you he has a S&W Glock 16)

 

[Bufford t. Justice]

What's scary is somebody thought this guy wise enough to carry a gun and issued a ccw.

 

[jim147]

:banghead:How did we all miss it.
It's gecko45's dad.

 

[larry_minn]

While the orig story was funny. I am amazed that none of the posters here EVER got caught in the "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" They never started a new job/career/hobby/etc where there were well known (to those involved) "truths" that the new guy didn't know.

Lets see Glock has a .40 S&W so this guy buys the 9mm Glock and THINKS it must also be "S&W" since the .40 was... (Yes it wouldn't have hurt if he would have admitted "maybe it is only 9mm") Thing is most guys (esp that post here) want everyone to believe they were born knowing the model numbers/calibers/volicities/cap/accuracy of any gun made in last 75yrs.
BTW regards E-85. When they have (open houses/promotions) for E-85 if its where I will be going I put E-85 into my pickup (that is not flex fuel)
First time the "rep" came running over "Sir you need a flex fuel truck to run E-85" I assured him it was ok. "If you replace gas lines with Stainless steel braided/the connections with ........" He was amazed and walked off. I then put E-85 (26 gallons) into a 30 gallon drum. I also put 6 gallons in each fuel tank (then filled with regular/E-10%)
See this truck is approved for E-20 (thats 20% and normal gas in MN is E-10 So I was slightly over % but not much. I then put the 26gal in a tank and put 250 gallons of E-10. See during the promotion E-85 was $1.40 cheaper then gas. (this was before gas went up so dang high as well. it was $.85 a gallon for E-85... ) Truck has 108k miles on it (15k since then)
So you CAN burn E-85 in non flex in limited amounts. I did plan/did change fuel filter after tanks on truck dry. (it tends to clean the crap out of tanks/fuel lines but filter actually "seemed" ok.
I would NOT suggest running strait E-85 in car not set up for it. (I do know some people who do and none seem to have any problems) IMO it is too dry,lack of lube, hard on seals, burns slightly hotter for me to want to attempt that.

another fun thought. I love the folks that say a .38+p is cats wiskers but think the 9mm is a wimpy waste of time. IIRC the 9mm is a .355" bullet of anywhere from 90-147 grains (common loads) at around 1000fps.
The .38 is a .357" (thats TWO ONE-THOUSANDS of a inch larger) again bullet weight of 90-158 grain being common with speeds in upper 850fps.
(both have much heavier/lighter as well as faster/slower loads available but on average I don't think I am too far off)

The real point (if there is one) is we all have our areas we know "something" about. The OP tried to help out another person. Some people don't want to be helped. (and send me some blinker fluid as the left blinker seems to be sticking)

 

[Franksterm1]

I once asked a Private to get me

the left metric adjustable wrench. One foggy morning at Graf I told the same Private to go to the tower and have the 1SG turn on the range fans to blow the fog off the range. He came back about 10 minutes later and said "Top said he'd do it right away and he needs see you in the tower". When I got there I did pushups until Top was tired, but he was smiling.

 

[.cheese.]

mr.72 says:

But at the Wal Mart ammo counter is not the place to try and antagonize someone who is likely just making an honest mistake.

followed by

However I would say the OP was not exactly skilled at the art of argument or persuasion.

followed by

Nice going making him feel like an idiot and then posting it on the internet.

Argument? Antagonize? Making him feel like an idiot?

At no point did I call him any names. I was polite at all times.... and I was trying to help him. I guess I'm guilty of posting it to the internet afterwards, but it was too bizarre not to.

 

[Bufford t. Justice]

"When I got there I did pushups until Top was tired, but he was smiling."
Sounds about right.

 

[brassdog]

My favorite is from my wife. It seems as a child she had a devious streak for earning ice cream money in the third grade. She would go around selling litle ziploc bags of dehydrated water to the second graders. All you had to do was add water!

 

[JTW Jr.]

Nice going making him feel like an idiot

in case you hadn't notice , the future darwin award winner brought that on himself with:

It's a Smith and Wesson Glock.

Dont worry though , the guy eventually gave up on finding his ammo and went to the electronics department in search of a DVD rewinder and strings for his air guitar.

 

[BruceRDucer]

I kind of agree, anyone who is so obviously not knowledgeable about guns may well be a recent convert. Nice going making him feel like an idiot and then posting it on the internet.---Mr. 72

Thanks. At least somebody agrees that I was right.

It was in fact a Smith & Wesson Oil Glock, and all I really wanted was some 40MM ammo for it until that guy humiliated me!

((((((ducks)))))

/

 

[brigadier]

Oh, people like that are actually not that bad. They just need a little friendly break in. I know some pretty sharp gun guys who started out that way.
It just takes someone skilled in this to ease them out of their arrogance and rebuild their brain correctly without the ego for boundary.
The guy who thinks the Black Talon was meant to kill cops and starts screaming obscenities at you when you tell and prove him wrong is the guy you need to watch out for.
The situation in the store most likely would have gone allot differently if he had his gun with him.
Last time I ran in to a situation like that, the guy followed me around like a puppy dog afterwords and eventually became the guy who is pumping some sense in to newbies.
Again, the guy who starts cussing at you over being disproved about a less obvious misjudgment is the guy you really need to worry about. It's the hot heads who hold on to their ego for dear life and it's easier for them to do so when defending a less obvious mistake.
Guys like the Wal Mart guy are the most impressionable and easy to educate once they crack, and cracking them isn't all that hard. If I were you, I'd try making a new friend if you see him again. You'll probably prevent a shooting accident and find yourself with a good new shooting buddy in the process.

 

[TRGRHPY]

I wonder if he found the ammo he was looking for?

What state lists the actual firearm SN on your carry permit? Or was that just some bs he was spouting?