Your opinion on the best 300 win mag

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2nd thread asking for best rifle in the chamber that the OP WANTS , and lots of post telling him to get another caliber ! what gives ?? I think a 7mmMag is the biggest thing you would need for anything , and over kill for most things , yet I have one , so if the OP wants a big Mag , then that is what he should get , as I put in the other thread , kick can be fixed with a good recoil pad and a muzzle brake ,
 
2nd thread asking for best rifle in the chamber that the OP WANTS , and lots of post telling him to get another caliber ! what gives ?? I think a 7mmMag is the biggest thing you would need for anything , and over kill for most things , yet I have one , so if the OP wants a big Mag , then that is what he should get , as I put in the other thread , kick can be fixed with a good recoil pad and a muzzle brake ,
What gives?

Other experienced shooters know that the 300WM is overkill for what the OP wants to do with his rifle, and know that he will get less out of a 300WM than he would out of a cartridge that is better suited to the intended purpose. Magnum cartridges recoil too heavily for most shooters. I see lots of people that have magnum chambered rifles. I see few that can properly handle them and haven't developed a flinch. Especially if OP is new to rifles, I would suggest heeding the advice to go with a .308 or 30-06. In addition to more than sufficient ballistic performance at the ranges indicated and reduced recoil, the cartridges are cheaper and there is a wider selection of factory ammo.

As for the rifles themselves, does the $1300 include a scope?

If so, something like a Tikka T3 or Winchester M70 would be my first choices, spend the remaining $500 or so on a decent scope (Leupold is my preference).

If not, look in to a Kimber 84, Winchester M70 Super Grade or SAKO A7.
 
^^^hum... must have missed my last sentence^^^ Recoil can be fixed, My 7mmWSM kicks the same as my 270's and I load a bit hot with my 7mm-08 so that is doing about the same as my 270,s
 
My only experience is my Win Mod 70 (push feed) in .300 Mag. It puts 'em where I point it and is VERY effective on what I've shot with it-deer and hogs.
 
^^^hum... must have missed my last sentence^^^ Recoil can be fixed, My 7mmWSM kicks the same as my 270's and I load a bit hot with my 7mm-08 so that is doing about the same as my 270,s
Yes, you can reduce recoil by addition of things like muzzle brakes and recoil pads. The downside of this is they aren't free, the muzzle blast is excessive and these things aren't necessary with a cartridge better suited to the intended purpose. You also addressed none of the other points of consideration I mentioned against going with a magnum cartridge. Additionally, the .270WSM and 7mmWSM recoil about the same as a 30-06. The 300WM has 25%-30% more recoil.
 
Yes, you can reduce recoil by addition of things like muzzle brakes and recoil pads. The downside of this is they aren't free, the muzzle blast is excessive and these things aren't necessary with a cartridge better suited to the intended purpose. You also addressed none of the other points of consideration I mentioned against going with a magnum cartridge. Additionally, the .270WSM and 7mmWSM recoil about the same as a 30-06. The 300WM has 25%-30% more recoil.
recoil varies from gun to gun as much as it dose from cal to cal, The friend I got my Savage 111 in 7mmWSM from , has a Win Mod70 in 300WM I have shot that and have to agree with him that it was more conferrable to shoot than the 7mmWSM according to all the gun reviews that came out when the WSM's came out , yes there suppose to be 25% less kick but in the real world that may not always be true , maybe in the same make and model gun , this might be true , , as for adding a muzzle brake , well some will actually cut muzzle blast , or so I have read , I made mine and can't tell the difference , anyone sitting next to me sure hate it LOL....

Anyway back on task , the OP wants a 300 Win Mag , I really like my friends Win Mod70. in 300Win Mag, but I'm a Savage fan, I have 8 of them, 5 are bolts, 2 short actions, 3 long actions , so my vote is a Savage , and for $1300 you could get a Weather Warrior and upgrade the recoil pad and add a muzzle brake for less than some others listed here
 
Winchester Model 70 Extreme Weather! Not a huge fan of 26" barrels for hunting, but you asked! The few magnums I have owned, I had chopped down to 23 inches. Little easier to handle, but you lose some of the benefits of the magnum and they do get loud!

I would look at the '06 and 325 WSM for a do everything rifle, but sounds like you have your mind made up.
 
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This is easy: Remington M700 Police. Have the bolt enhanced with an M16-style extractor, and you're good. BTW, the M700Ps, average 0.50" MOA. Not bad for a factory rifle that you might want to use for long-range target. JMHO. If not the M700P, the M70 in whatever flavor you like.

Geno
 
I guess many here have been unhappy with 300 win mag recoil from reading the post. I noticed most gun rags feel the same way, and have been harping on the belted magnums especially for years. I have had 308 rifles factory jobs short barrel light weight that were as much to handle as my 700 bdl 300 win mag. Find someone who will let you shoot their rifle if any question on recoil. I now hunt with a Sako 7mm-08 which I love it fits my needs, however if I were hunting over a large field or long shots were presented often I would be using 300 win mag. The 7mm mag also has a loyal following my uncle uses a browning a-bolt 7 mag as his only deer rifle he has others but loves the cartridge rifle combo. Research the cartridge you want extensively, find the gun you want and fits you well ( I try and try them) then scrounge for best deal (used is a great option for me) and purchase knowing you made a informed purchase...that's what I try for.

One thing about the belted magnum deer rifles you can buy used without having to worry about it being shot out (exceptions to every rule) of course that applies to pretty much any deer rifle most I see probably have not had 50 rounds down the tube truth be told they original buyer probably has several rounds left from the one box of 20 he bought with gun.
 
First of all, note that a good 6.5 chambering (6.5-284, 6.5-'06, 6.5x55) with a VLD 139/140 has less drop and drift at 1000 yards than .300 win mag, and has plenty of power to kill dang near anything you'd want to, so I think it's the wrong *question* - why on earth would you want all that recoil, blast and expense? :) But since you asked, the Nemo of course:

http://nemoarms.com/portfolio/omen-watchman-300-win-mag-ar/
 
If budget weren't a concern, I would say a trg42. If I were looking for a lightweight hunting rifle, tikka t3 with an upgraded steel recoil lug would get my vote.
I'm a huge fan of Tikkas. I have two of them and will probably buy another next year. But I am assuming you mean the Tikka T3 Lite. Firing a 300 WM out of such a light gun would likely be an unpleasant experience. Of course, if you fire 4 shots per year, it might be acceptable, but I wouldn't want to do it.
If however you mean a Tikka Sporter, then by all means. But it's pretty heavy for hunting.
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The only issue of which I'm aware with .300 WSM v. .300 WM is that some rifles have feeding difficulty because of the shorter, fatter case and sharp shoulder angle. I'll be testing a new Sako 85 in .300 WSM and will report in the next few days.

Harry
 
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