Your range - brass pickup rules
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I'm a member of a gun club with a 560 acre range waaay out in the country. Has a bunch of separate bermed ranges of many kinds. If you find brass on the ground or in the trash, it's yours. I usually spend more time grubbing for brass than shooting. But now I have about 22,000 extra pistol cases I need to sell to work on my Harley with. I've loaded up so much ammo I'm out of room to store it.
mljdeckard
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The ground on BLM land should not be littered.
Most ranges I have gone to in the past just ask you to clean up after yourself. There is a broom and a bucket. Sometimes someone will ask me if I am keeping my brass. When I say yes, they move on.
Most ranges I have gone to in the past just ask you to clean up after yourself. There is a broom and a bucket. Sometimes someone will ask me if I am keeping my brass. When I say yes, they move on.
Sam1911
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We don't really have "lanes" in any of our pits or bays or on the indoor range. Whatever brass might be on the ground when you arrive would be yours to take if you want it.
During practices, while some folks are pasting the shooter's targets, others will be picking up his brass. All that usually goes into a pile on a range table and each shooter can come by at his leisure and sort out whatever brass was his/hers or a fair share of what's left. Some shooters DO mark their brass with colored lines or stripes and they want THEIR brass back, rather than just a reasonable cut of the lot. We try to accommodate them.
On club-level match days it's a mixed bag. Some stages run quickly and everyone has time after the squad is done in that bay to pick up their squad's brass and divvy it up. Some stages drag a bit and taking time to pick brass while the next squad is waiting to run would be very rude. Usually a few shooters will come back after all the squads are finished and police up what they want from whatever's left there.
At large "sanctioned" matches, we usually run "lost brass" rules. There is no time for anyone to hold up the flow of shooters by crawling around the pit or bay picking their brass. Fire, score, paste, and move along -- 150+ more shooters waiting to play, and a volunteer range staff who are going to be on their feet for 2-4 days and don't want this to take any longer than it has to. $10 worth of lost brass is just part of the cost of shooting the match -- like your hotel room, gas or plane ticket, and sunscreen. Plus, conscientious Match Directors like to have a bucket of brass left on each bay when the match is over for their volunteer staff to share among themselves, as a little "thank you" for folks who's only other compensation is usually a t-shirt and maybe a hat.
During practices, while some folks are pasting the shooter's targets, others will be picking up his brass. All that usually goes into a pile on a range table and each shooter can come by at his leisure and sort out whatever brass was his/hers or a fair share of what's left. Some shooters DO mark their brass with colored lines or stripes and they want THEIR brass back, rather than just a reasonable cut of the lot. We try to accommodate them.
On club-level match days it's a mixed bag. Some stages run quickly and everyone has time after the squad is done in that bay to pick up their squad's brass and divvy it up. Some stages drag a bit and taking time to pick brass while the next squad is waiting to run would be very rude. Usually a few shooters will come back after all the squads are finished and police up what they want from whatever's left there.
At large "sanctioned" matches, we usually run "lost brass" rules. There is no time for anyone to hold up the flow of shooters by crawling around the pit or bay picking their brass. Fire, score, paste, and move along -- 150+ more shooters waiting to play, and a volunteer range staff who are going to be on their feet for 2-4 days and don't want this to take any longer than it has to. $10 worth of lost brass is just part of the cost of shooting the match -- like your hotel room, gas or plane ticket, and sunscreen. Plus, conscientious Match Directors like to have a bucket of brass left on each bay when the match is over for their volunteer staff to share among themselves, as a little "thank you" for folks who's only other compensation is usually a t-shirt and maybe a hat.
bayjoe
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The range I shoot at say if you don't own it don't touch it. Range masters are like blood hounds out picking brass up.
03fatboy
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If it's on the ground and they don't want it's fair game,
When i get there the first thing i do is look for brass.
Most of the time i have the range to myself, like to go on monday after the weekend shooter (they must have real jobs) always brass to pickup.
When i get there the first thing i do is look for brass.
Most of the time i have the range to myself, like to go on monday after the weekend shooter (they must have real jobs) always brass to pickup.
Jesse Heywood
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Indoor range where the rule is to leave a clean floor. Brooms and dustpans are provided. We respect our fellow shooters and ask before purloining another's brass. If someone hasn't picked up their brass I do my part to police the area.
1SOW
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In the past it was pick up what you want that's on the ground.
It's changed to pick up only your own brass. The range folks are using the brass profits to support 4-H shooting.
I still pick up a good bit of pistol brass, but only keep preferred headstamps and only 9mm. I accumulate my culls from several matches and this practice range. I take these culls back to my practice range in support of 4-H. (1100+ at a time--one coffee can full))
We both make out okay all the way around. I get GOOD brass to load, they get more than I use. 4-H gets to shoot. They usually won't take my money to shoot every week.
These are good folks.
It's changed to pick up only your own brass. The range folks are using the brass profits to support 4-H shooting.
I still pick up a good bit of pistol brass, but only keep preferred headstamps and only 9mm. I accumulate my culls from several matches and this practice range. I take these culls back to my practice range in support of 4-H. (1100+ at a time--one coffee can full))
We both make out okay all the way around. I get GOOD brass to load, they get more than I use. 4-H gets to shoot. They usually won't take my money to shoot every week.
These are good folks.
gonefishin1
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The only outdoor range close to me will not even let you pick up your own brass. Even if you drop it right beside you. They said that they use it to keep the place open, but they also won't sell it to me either.... This same place also charges more for ar rifles to shoot there than regular rifles. They totally lost my business. I will drive an hour and a half to shoot before I go back there.
winkzoot
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Only allowed to pick up your brass. The range keeps the rest. At one place here in town the pistol range is on a grate and all the brass falls out of reach. Shot there once and never again.
Reefinmike
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People are asked to pick up their brass that falls on the concrete pad from the firing line and back 12 feet and either keep it or dispose of it in the scrap bin. Brass in the bin becomes range property. I may have caught myself pulling out any 357 mag I see and some oddball like 500s&w a time or dozen but I know the rangemaster well enough and I do plenty of cleanup to justify my cherry pickin!
In front of the firing line? as much 9mm, 40, 45, 38spl and 223 as you could gather in a day. just gotta collect during a cease fire or when the range is empty. One very cold winter day I collected just over 4,000 223 cases in a two hour period. I typically come back home with an extra 100-200 casings of the required variety. now its 45's and Im almost to my stop picking up goal. sadly that goal is never reached
In front of the firing line? as much 9mm, 40, 45, 38spl and 223 as you could gather in a day. just gotta collect during a cease fire or when the range is empty. One very cold winter day I collected just over 4,000 223 cases in a two hour period. I typically come back home with an extra 100-200 casings of the required variety. now its 45's and Im almost to my stop picking up goal. sadly that goal is never reached
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1SOW
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winkzoot, is that one off 1604 east ?
Bracken is a miserable range in all respects. I don't like the they way they do business.
Bracken is a miserable range in all respects. I don't like the they way they do business.
Officers'Wife
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Ours is a private range that my grandfather built. My brother and two of our employees are avid reloaders and another employee has a small foundry furnace. The brass rarely gets the chance to hit the ground.
beatledog7
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I would not shoot at a range where my brass becomes theirs once I fire the round.
Everywhere I shoot I can claim my brass, and if I'm shooting a brass thrower I usually do a quick scout and pickup every few minutes. That way, my brass never accumulates in big numbers and is never very much at risk of being scavenged while I'm still shooting.
It's common for other shooters to say ok to having theirs as well, I never assume. I always ask. A good brass day is any day I leave with at least as many cases as I shot.
Everywhere I shoot I can claim my brass, and if I'm shooting a brass thrower I usually do a quick scout and pickup every few minutes. That way, my brass never accumulates in big numbers and is never very much at risk of being scavenged while I'm still shooting.
It's common for other shooters to say ok to having theirs as well, I never assume. I always ask. A good brass day is any day I leave with at least as many cases as I shot.
45lcshooter
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Dont really have lanes. Everything is under roof except for pistol range, but everything is outside. I walk around the pistol area pick up avg 200 pcs, of brass and alumimunm. 22's scattered all over the floor dont bother me. We have brass buckets hanging on the support posts for the roof. Guy will use them as trash cans as well. But every time i go to that range, which is now 2 hours away from me, i take a garbage bag, and dump all the buckets and take home. Sort out trash, shotgun shells, steel, brass. In front of the benches i usually come across couple dozen 223 from some newbie shooter, that just wants to sling brass around.
That range is pretty easy going as far as brass goes.
That range is pretty easy going as far as brass goes.
FROGO207
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You are supposed to police your own brass and trash at each shooting station. There are containers for brass and trash provided and you can take whatever you want for your own reloading purposes. They ask that we leave the brass not wanted for the club/other members on the honor system. This is a private range run by elected members. FWIW a year or so ago I took about 25-30 GAL .22 range brass to the recyclers for them and netted $300+ for the range operations.
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Jcinnb
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Interesting post. I normally pick up if shooters have left.
Yesterday there was a group several tables down. The were A-holes, I could tell, and then one pulled out a belted AR or something and fired the whole belt in one session. Quickly.
Anyway, I approached them and asked if they were saving their brass. This guy looks at me for about 5 seconds, with his head cocked, in a retarded sort of way and finally says, "Yes, don't touch it." I said no problem.
They finally left and I went down to look, none was picked up and unfortunately none I could use.
The range sells brass, they may not like you picking it up, but no one has ever said anything to me.
On the flip side, another day, a guy was shooting and his girl, short shorts, and bikini top was watching. Many were watching her, if you get my drift. I asked if the guy was saving brass he said no, and the little honey said she would pick it up for me.
Now that little hottie could pick up some brass. Dayum! So I figure I am even at this point!
Yesterday there was a group several tables down. The were A-holes, I could tell, and then one pulled out a belted AR or something and fired the whole belt in one session. Quickly.
Anyway, I approached them and asked if they were saving their brass. This guy looks at me for about 5 seconds, with his head cocked, in a retarded sort of way and finally says, "Yes, don't touch it." I said no problem.
They finally left and I went down to look, none was picked up and unfortunately none I could use.
The range sells brass, they may not like you picking it up, but no one has ever said anything to me.
On the flip side, another day, a guy was shooting and his girl, short shorts, and bikini top was watching. Many were watching her, if you get my drift. I asked if the guy was saving brass he said no, and the little honey said she would pick it up for me.
Now that little hottie could pick up some brass. Dayum! So I figure I am even at this point!
HOWARD J
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At the state range I go to---you pick up your brass & any that rolls into your lane.
You can keep anyones brass if they don't want it
You must clean up your own lane --BUT---what I don't like is the fact that the range masters will allow a certain class of people to walk away & leave a mess of .22 cal cases all over the place & then expect someone else to clean up the area--I keep forgetting that this is the NEW AMERICA
You can keep anyones brass if they don't want it
You must clean up your own lane --BUT---what I don't like is the fact that the range masters will allow a certain class of people to walk away & leave a mess of .22 cal cases all over the place & then expect someone else to clean up the area--I keep forgetting that this is the NEW AMERICA
Reloadron
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My Indoor Range:
Stonewall LTD. Gun Shop & Pistol Range
100 Ken Mar Industrial Parkway
(1/4 mile West of I-77 off Rt. 82)
Broadview Hts., OH 44147
Pistol, Rifle and Shotgun Regulations:
1.We reserve the right to inspect all cases & ammo.
2.All rifle ammo will be inspected. (Soft point or lead round nose only. No steel core, armor piercing or full metal jackets.)
3. All rifle targets must be shot at 25 yards. (Full length of range.)
4.All rifles and full stock shotguns must be shot from shoulder or bench rested.
5. High power rifles may be shot with soft point or hollow point ammo and 1 round in magazine at a time. Target must be back the full 75 feet.
6. No full auto high power rifle.
7. No steel shot or solid copper slugs.
8. No rapid fire with pistol grip shotguns.
9. Pistol grip shotguns – buck shot or personal defense rounds only!
10. No picking up brass except for your own.
So you can pick up your own brass.
My Outdoor Range:
Kelbly's Incorporated
7222 Dalton Fox Lake Road
North Lawrence, Ohio 44666
Phone (330) 683-4674
Fax (330) 682-7349
Nice range for serious shooters. Popular with the bench rest crowd. Whatever brass is left on the range is there for the taking. Years ago it wasn't unusual to find quality brass laying around with the exception of the bench rest guys who always keep theirs. Lately? Good luck as few shooters leave brass behind.
Ron
Stonewall LTD. Gun Shop & Pistol Range
100 Ken Mar Industrial Parkway
(1/4 mile West of I-77 off Rt. 82)
Broadview Hts., OH 44147
Pistol, Rifle and Shotgun Regulations:
1.We reserve the right to inspect all cases & ammo.
2.All rifle ammo will be inspected. (Soft point or lead round nose only. No steel core, armor piercing or full metal jackets.)
3. All rifle targets must be shot at 25 yards. (Full length of range.)
4.All rifles and full stock shotguns must be shot from shoulder or bench rested.
5. High power rifles may be shot with soft point or hollow point ammo and 1 round in magazine at a time. Target must be back the full 75 feet.
6. No full auto high power rifle.
7. No steel shot or solid copper slugs.
8. No rapid fire with pistol grip shotguns.
9. Pistol grip shotguns – buck shot or personal defense rounds only!
10. No picking up brass except for your own.
So you can pick up your own brass.
My Outdoor Range:
Kelbly's Incorporated
7222 Dalton Fox Lake Road
North Lawrence, Ohio 44666
Phone (330) 683-4674
Fax (330) 682-7349
Nice range for serious shooters. Popular with the bench rest crowd. Whatever brass is left on the range is there for the taking. Years ago it wasn't unusual to find quality brass laying around with the exception of the bench rest guys who always keep theirs. Lately? Good luck as few shooters leave brass behind.
Ron
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I only shoot at ranges, that are not my own, to shoot matches. Some of those are "lost brass" on the other end of the spectrum one range requires all brass to be picked up before we leave.
Some people will pick it up others won't. I come back on average just shy of a gallon of brass, at these matches. Almost 2 gallons from yesterday's match because no one in the squad ahead of us picked up the bay before moving on.
Some people will pick it up others won't. I come back on average just shy of a gallon of brass, at these matches. Almost 2 gallons from yesterday's match because no one in the squad ahead of us picked up the bay before moving on.
howlnmad
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Private range here. If it's on the ground, it's up for grabs.
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