I just bought my son a Savage model 11 youth rifle with accu-trigger in .243 a few months ago for his 9th birthday. It's a great shooting rifle, but it kicks fairly hard as far as .243's go. He doesn't enjoy shooting it much. I don't understand why, but they don't put a recoil pad on the youth rifle. Plus the gun is very light weight. I'd like to put a recoil pad on it for him, but then the LOP would be that of a standard adult rifle and wouldn't fit him.