SleazyRider
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Is profiling, then, a legitimate component of situational awareness?
Nope. In a jury trial the jury and only the jury is the "finder" (trier) of fact. And the jury doesn't give us an opinon; it gives us the true word (verdict).Any report or investigation is going to be divided into "findings of fact" and "opinions."
Any report or investigation is going to be divided into "findings of fact" and "opinions."
In retrospective, vocalizing certain perceptions to neighbors might not have been wise either.Again, let's focus on what can be learned here.
One lesson of recorded conversations might be to keep your "inner dialog" inner, and not verbalized, when what you say is being recorded. Find your Sergeant Joe Friday self in there somewhere and tap into it - "All we want are the facts, Ma'am."
Hearing your voice on tape in court is not something to look forward to...
From Miami Herald article in post 15They discussed the topic with Zimmerman when the watch captain knocked on their door late last year. Zimmerman seemed friendly, helpful, and a “pretty cool dude,” Ibrahim Rashada said.
“He came by here and talked about carrying guns and getting my wife more involved with guns,” he said. “He said I should have a weapon and that his wife took classes to learn how to use one.
“I do have a weapon, but I don’t walk around the neighborhood with mine!”
Actually, he does not walk around the neighborhood at all.
“I fit the stereotype he emailed around,” he said. “Listen, you even hear me say it: ‘A black guy did this. A black guy did that.’ So I thought, ‘Let me sit in the house. I don’t want anyone chasing me.’ ”
Sigh.Loosehorse, you are incorrect about the stare. It is a look of aggression or challenge in many animals including man.
What was o'mar,s strategy to reject the judge on conflict of interest grounds?
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What was o'mar,s strategy to reject the judge on conflict of interest grounds?
Calls for speculation which is prohibited in this thread.
Posted by henschman: ...if you are carrying concealed and someone attacks you physically but without a weapon, at what point are you "sufficiently" in fear of death or serious bodily injury to draw and fire? I know it depends on a lot of things, but how long would you wait?
This case does bring up an interesting issue that those who carry should consider: if you are carrying concealed and someone attacks you physically but without a weapon, at what point are you "sufficiently" in fear of death or serious bodily injury to draw and fire? I know it depends on a lot of things, but how long would you wait? After the first blow has been dealt? When the fight is going badly for you and you are taking a beating? When they are on top of you slamming your head into the ground? How long would you wait?
There is also the issue of what happens if the gun is revealed during the struggle, and the aggressor continues to attack. Does this change the point at which you would try to use the gun? Do you have to wait until the aggressor tries to actually grab the gun from you before you are reasonably in fear of death or serious bodily injury?
What is the protocall for selecting a replacement judge, if that is needed?
Fred Fuller -- One lesson of recorded conversations might be to keep your "inner dialog" inner, and not verbalized, when what you say is being recorded. Find your Sergeant Joe Friday self in there somewhere and tap into it - "All we want are the facts, Ma'am."
Hearing your voice on tape in court is not something to look forward to...
MicroT that is also what happened with Anthony in Florida, where the supervising judge took on her case himself.
"Profiling" is always a temptation for everyone, as in "this guy looks suspicious."
If you stick to facts that you have actually eye-witnessed, you don't fall into that trap yourself.
That is good advice. Zimmerman did not follow this and he is paying the price now.
if you go about armed with the idea that any physical altercation could be life threatening because they might take your gun and therefore you have to use the gun to end the altercation before that happens