George P
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AMEN to that!Dont ever, ever refer to a shotgun as a shottie.
Just dont.
There's very few saying that makes us look like ignorant teenage gamers that the use of that word.
AMEN to that!Dont ever, ever refer to a shotgun as a shottie.
Just dont.
For some reason, i can tolerate the occasional boomstick, but the adolescent term "shottie" gives me a Yosemite Sam meltdown.boomstick?
Actually, a zinc-alloy RG-25 will just as easily kill someone if employed correctly.
In light of this, what is your point? Ruger revolvers can be deadly? Granted. Ruger revolvers are well-made. Granted. But what does any of that have to do with the question at hand?
To take one of my initial 3 as an example, it's both amusing and frustrating watching some competitors in a game like USPSA stay very smooth - and very slow - for years without making any material improvements in their speed. Because they have been promised that if they stay slow and smooth well enough, the speed will eventually come naturally. If/when they finally get frustrated and decide to practice speed for a change, they often get different results in a short space of time. But they get deterred from doing this for months or years (or, worse, forever) because of an old saying that keeps going around.
"Its the Indian not the arrow"
It was Ross Seyfried that won an IPSC match with a stock Government model 1911 way back when. Yes, it was way back when, but even at that time modded 1911s were the fashion for matches.
For some reason, i can tolerate the occasional boomstick, but the adolescent term "shottie" gives me a Yosemite Sam meltdown.
Shottie and Deagle; both are the excremental detritus of the gaming community us shooters are left to scoop up. I do occasionally use them for colloquial humor.AMEN to that!
There's very few saying that makes us look like ignorant teenage gamers that the use of that word.
"Rugers are built like tanks.":
Ruger builds very robust guns but they will and do break
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- Beware the man with one gun/rifle/pistol; he probably knows how to use it.
The two most important rules in a gunfight are: always cheat and always win.
- What does that actually mean?
"It's the Indian, not the arrow."
The whole "don't pull a .25 on somebody. If you do, you might have to shoot him with it. If you do shoot him with it, he might just find out. If he finds out, he might just be mad enough to beat you to death with it." thing..
"I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six"
and, yes "tragic boating accident" is supposed to be cute and clever, but it is a very corny and worn-out.
"Beware the man with one gun/rifle/pistol; he probably knows how to use it."
IMO this is a very good saying. Prior to the emergence of the middle-class after WWII most folk could not afford owning many firearms so they made do with what they had. The 32-20 was considered to be a good deer rifle until the gun writers and "experts" came along and told me it isn't so. (Come to think of if the 32-20 isn't enough cartridge for deer why is the .223? )
But the real meaning to me is practice, practice, practice with what you use for self-defense. Instead of buying another gun spend the gun on ammunition and range time. (FYI I am guilty of buying guns when I should be shooting more).
Dave,
I understand your viewpoint but we will have to agree to disagree.
Yeah, sort of. I think it probably started as advice to guys on a firing line who were learning some kind of manipulation or movement for the first time. When you go faster than your competence allows, you do start to get the kinds of mistakes that slow you down. So if your goal is to get a class of 20 guys of varying skill level to, say, reload their pistols in a way that looks basically competent and can be done in a length of time that is not ridiculous, it's good advice. It has no relevance, though, when someone has the basic competence and then is actively trying to learn to go materially faster.
The "take your time in a hurry" is really about the need to go as fast as your competence allows, but no faster, when performing under pressure.
in my experience the arrow has a LOT to do with it. i really hate it when people say "my rifle outshoots me". what they're telling me is "i can't shoot OR apply basic logic to a simple situation"."It's the Indian, not the arrow."
My retort is that the Grand Masters don't need a custom gun to beat me, but they need the best they can get to try to beat each other.
That’s kind of my point. “All guns are always loaded” is an absolute. It contains the words “all” and “always.”
It isn’t worded to be taken in context; we take it in context, because we aren’t idiots and we know it can’t be true. It is why we buy more ammunition, and practice reloads, and clear guns before we clean them: we know they aren’t always loaded. As I said, I have no problem with the phrase “treat all guns . . .” but to start teaching beginners with a lie seems like a disservice to me.
You disagree with me about what the axiom is saying? Or you seriously contend that ownership of a single firearm is positively correlated with skill?
Dont ever, ever refer to a shotgun as a shottie.
Just dont.
Better judged by twelve than carried by six
Dumb interpretation is not to consider legal risks equipment choice, tactical aspects that might be counter productive (like saying if you carry a 380 you will empty the mag, reload and emptying the second magazine ) ,saying such on the internet.
Next -saying if it’s a good shoot ...
Assumes all will agree with your action
and you won’t go to trial or the jury will see it as a good shoot.
The whole "what's your life worth?" when suggesting carry guns (or criticizing the choices made by others.)
There is not one person who can make me understand the algorithm behind that. So, you carry a three-thousand-dollar gun. How does that tell me at what amount, in USD, you value your life? I haven't even come up with an amount at which I value mine.
"More accurate than i am"
"Modern Sporting Rifles", I know its more a term than a saying... but it just nauseates me.
If you can’t do it in five, you ain’t doing your job.
- just posturing baloney for many reasons