In my experience? No, I don’t think they’re any harder than Federal SPP but the brass might not be the same thickness as what Federal uses.I wonder if that's because they have a softer cup. I wouldn't think they would be any softer than federal.
They are harder to ignite than Federal.I wonder if that's because they have a softer cup. I wouldn't think they would be any softer than federal.
Yes, they are not recommended (by Remington) for high pressure cartridges, but they are wonderful for 38 Special, 380.
Could you Define high pressure?
I’d say that’s pretty accurate. Anything in the <15k CUP/<17k PSI range. Think about the Remington 1-1/2’s like the early to mid 20th century cartridge primer: .32NP, .38S&W, .38Spl… and then along came the .357Magnum and the 1-1/2 was out of its happy place.High pressure is a little vague, isn't it? Here's what Remington has on the box:
“Do not use 1½ small pistol primers in high intensity pistol cartridges such as the .357 Magnum, .357 SIG and the .40 S&W. Damage to your firearm and/or personal injury may result.”
Here's an article on them:
An NRA Shooting Sports Journal | Remington 1½ Pistol Primers
Remington’s 1½ pistol primers are unique in the world of small pistol primers, not fitting the standard versus magnum category that distinguishes between gunpowder choiceswww.ssusa.org
Certainly the primers loaded into my boxes of factory Remington 38spl (158gr LRN purchased last year) fail to ignite more than federal (always ignite) or Winchester (sometimes fail) that I load myself. I'm not certain though exactly which primers Rem actually used in those cartridges. Assuming it's Rem primers I've stuck to since focusing on Fed for tuned revolver. Talking 40-80% failure to ignite with the Rems first strike in double actionThey are harder to ignite than Federal.
It has been my experience that in ranking SPP in ease of ignition (not softness of cup) in my tuned S&W L-frame revolver with firing pin in the frame, based on how light I can adjust the mainspring, generally runs:Certainly the primers loaded into my boxes of factory Remington 38spl (158gr LRN purchased last year) fail to ignite more than federal (always ignite) or Winchester (sometimes fail) that I load myself.
High pressure is a little vague, isn't it? Here's what Remington has on the box:
“Do not use 1½ small pistol primers in high intensity pistol cartridges such as the .357 Magnum, .357 SIG and the .40 S&W. Damage to your firearm and/or personal injury may result.”
Here's an article on them:
An NRA Shooting Sports Journal | Remington 1½ Pistol Primers
Remington’s 1½ pistol primers are unique in the world of small pistol primers, not fitting the standard versus magnum category that distinguishes between gunpowder choiceswww.ssusa.org
Dang. I've never had a Rem primer fail to light in my 9mm reloads, in any of our semi-auto's.Certainly the primers loaded into my boxes of factory Remington 38spl (158gr LRN purchased last year) fail to ignite more than federal (always ignite) or Winchester (sometimes fail) that I load myself. I'm not certain though exactly which primers Rem actually used in those cartridges. Assuming it's Rem primers I've stuck to since focusing on Fed for tuned revolver. Talking 40-80% failure to ignite with the Rems first strike in double action
The issue I have is I'm using a tuned target revolver which doesn't strike as hard as a typical revolver much less a semi auto, especially when shooting the revolver in DA. If I were shooting a 1911 with a decent hammer spring and a steel FP they'd probably be fineDang. I've never had a Rem primer fail to light in my 9mm reloads, in any of our semi-auto's.
The Remington 1-1/2 is for standard pressure "small pistol" loads. They are the equivalent of the Winchester WSP primers. Not as thick as CCI 500; not as thin as Federal 100.I wonder if that's because they have a softer cup. I wouldn't think they would be any softer than federal.
I hope so, I'm still buying them for $54. a brick, just picked up another one today. Getting my stock slowly built back up.The Remington 1-1/2 is for standard pressure "small pistol" loads. They are the equivalent of the Winchester WSP primers. Not as thick as CCI 500; not as thin as Federal 100.
The Remington 5-1/2 is a slightly thicker cup for high pressure "small pistol" loads. Use these anywhere a "magnum primer" is specified.