I don't disagree with that, but throw a little more money at the AR in the form of a good barrel and trigger and it does and since I like ARs the bolt gun got sold.A 500 dollar bolt gun should easily outshoot a 500 dollar AR unless it’s a lemon
I don't disagree with that, but throw a little more money at the AR in the form of a good barrel and trigger and it does and since I like ARs the bolt gun got sold.A 500 dollar bolt gun should easily outshoot a 500 dollar AR unless it’s a lemon
Lots of new AR owners is my educated guess. I'm always happy to answer their questions (as far as my limited knowledge allows)I have owned several and I like them but it gets tiresome when you come on a gun forum and that is all you see. New guys asking all the same questions that have been asked before, over and over.
from the OP. I was trying to figure out if he started the thread just to get people to agree with his opinion or trying to get people to disagree with this opinion. One can find millions of folks on the internet giving their reason(s) for dislike of the AR platform and millions of folks telling why they don't like Ford trucks, swiss cheese or French movies, too.Imo all they are good for is mag dumps and shooting games,
Probably a lot of brass that went flying off into the wild blue yonder. And if not, you could probably take a nice vacation with the time you've spent gathering it up.I reload a ton for the AR's, what am I missing?
I have a chip in my tooth I got from a mini 14 back in high school...... But tune em right.... And you can usually find the casesTune them right and they drop it right behind you at 4 o’clock. That said nothing throws brass like a mini 14. I’ll admit that after a target session with my ARs I leave with the same amount of brass I came with, but it’s not all mine.
Do you actually believe that?
A 500 dollar bolt gun should easily outshoot a 500 dollar AR unless it’s a lemon
With these assumptions, I took to YouTube to see live results of AR15s vs bolt action rifles, and what you claim doesn't seem to hold true.You can get an axis or American for 350-400. Cheaper with any rebate. And yeah it will outshoot ANY 500 dollar AR.
They said for the same price. To get an AR to shoot with a 400 dollar savage you will spend double. My white oak 20 inch will shoot with my 12FV but costed over 3x as much. Chrome line 16 inch barrels and garbage triggers aren't great for accuracy.
Or 400 dollar savage/ Ruger... maybe even vanguard for 550ish all shoot moa.
Who doesn’t own one or like them and why? Imo all they are good for is mag dumps and shooting games, but i am a hunter and all my long guns are hunting related. I have been debating really hard on getting one but really all i can see myself using it for would be coyote hunting and maybe shooting games, steel plate shooting, etc. i just don’t see a practical purpose. Anyone else the same?
Maybe i would be more suited with a PCR. I am slightly intrigued by the AR after handling a few today and shooting one. I’m thinking maybe it would be fun and if i end up hating it i could sell it.
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Why is one less "hunting".
Ones a 223 savage 12 fV. 26 inch barrel. Shoots one hole at 100 yards. Killed hundreds of varmint/predator.
The others a white oak 20 inch 223. Also one hole at 100 yards. Also killed many varmint and predator.
The AR and the 12 fv are very close in weight. Both portly. Lol. The AR is far better for 2 a followup on a second yote.
Now as far as anything other than 223 I don't see the appeal. I'll take a normal bolt gun.
Yes, the Caldwell brass catcher is nice and I have mounts on most if my AR-15s. It was great to have on my prairie dog hunts where our guide required we police all our brass.I leave with all of mine, and even after Ive been running around while I shoot.
This turned into a Fudd AR, or the like, bashing contest. Pretty much doing the exact same thing and using simular talking points but in reverse. It's the same kind of attitude the Tactal Operators who swear by semiauto handgun and rifle have when the topic of revolvers, lever action, bolt action, and other Fudd guns come up. Fudd will bash automatics from a hunting and hiking protective, and the tacticool guys will bash Fudd guns from a self-defense perspective.
They both are separate tools that are best at different task. Each are better than the other in some areas, and inferior in others. That said, if one wants an all around do it all rifles for hunting, long distance shooting, and self-defense situations, the AR15 and the like are king hands down. An AR can do close to everything a bolt action can do, but a bolt action can not fit into all the roles that an AR can. There's a reason why they are the most own and most popular rifles on the market.
I am a true gun nut, so I love, own, and collect all types of firearms regardless of caliber, action, and platform. That unfortunately leads to me becoming defensive when threads like this come up no matter what is being type of firearm is being criticized.