Dr office search and seizure?

I agree with morcey2. It's just my doctor... I'll lie and tell him "no". It's none of his or anyone else's business.

I shoot Sporting Clays and hunt Pheasants with my family MD. Still, when I go in for a checkup or other office visit, I get asked this question by the nurse. I just tell her/him I'd rather not answer. The doc tells me if I were to answer yes, then the next questions consists of how many and how I store them and their ammo. More of a "protect the kids" kinda thing, besides the stats as I said before. This is one of the places they get X-Amount of homes have firearms in them figures.

Wasn't there supposed to be legislation to prevent these type of questions from being asked?

The correct answer to those questions are either No" or "That is none of your business". Most doctors that I have had to deal with in my life (and it's been a whole bunch) are essentially overeducated mindless liberal fools. Be very careful with the medical industry. It's a lot like buying a used car but your life might be on the line if you choose poorly. My wife and my mother both came very close to dying because of poorly trained doctors. Be very careful.

I have not been asked, but it's been awhile since I last went.

Unless it's a visit for "child wellness" as a new parent, and the Dr.'s office has handouts on safe storage of a firearm (along with other childproofing the home measures), it's really none of their business. Your Dr. may be perfectly pro-gun, but someone in the medical community is pushing for this information. All of the major medical associations are vehemently anti-gun. The information is used by them to compile "statistics" that will be used in their anti-gun efforts. It doesn't matter whether it's the medical assoc., insurance company, the specific medical group your doc works for, etc., it's all the same.

In a worst case scenario, that information is filed into their database. If in the future, you or anyone in your immediate household is treated for "mental health issues", it could trigger reporting to the authorities. The State of California has an entire law enforcement division that is actively going to gun owner's homes and taking their guns based on among other things, medical provider reports.

For 99.9% of American gun owners, this is not an issue...yet. Remember the cautionary message of the Lautenberg Amendment, which was a retroactive elimination of constitutional rights at the stroke of a pen. You might trust your individual doctor, but you cannot trust the system itself.

I get my health coverage through the VA. I have been asked by the doctor's assistant if I have an AR15. I replied no because I never really liked them when I shot a M16 in the air force in my great Vietnam adventure. Never been asked any gun stuff since. I am going to a new civilian doc this week. We will see what happens there.....chris3

I had to get a chuckle out of this thread. I know both my doctor and dentist pretty well and both of them ask me if I have bought anything cool (guns, reloading equipment etc) since they saw me last. They are both avid shooters as well.

My kids pediatricians have asked the "gun question" for years. Only during the yearly "well checkup" physical.

As far as that action in the doctor's office adding me to a list? Nope, I'm already on lists. Tirod nailed it in his post on page 1 of this thread.

I fail to see how that question is related to one's health care. Now if he wants to ask if I'm having regular bowel movements, have any skin conditions, or am getting slow erections, I can see that as medically related. I'd probably answer the gun question by, "Don't ask me those types of questions anymore, or I might take it personally." And they can read into THAT whatever they want.

My kid's doctor asks me about firearms and their secure storage, but he also asks about pool safety and how we store cleaning supplies/chemicals, etc. I'd like to think these are basic parenting skills, but I know better. I have no problem with the conversation and certainly don't consider a civilian asking me a question that I am free to lie about or not answer an illegal search or gun registration.

<-- Home-based FFL

I just check no.

SharpsDressedMan said:

I fail to see how that question is related to one's health care.

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I think a lot of it has to do with those that work in trauma centers and emergency rooms, where gunshot wounds are a common health risk, and thus a health care issue. My next door neighbor, good friend of my wife, is a emergency room nurse as is the father of my youngest son's girlfriend. My neighbor's husband is a hunter and like me owns a bird dog. Common conversations between the two of us is either guns and/or hunting. All three of their children hunt and shoot. She still has issues with how much access kids have to firearms......and well she should. We all should. As for my son's girlfriend's dad, he too owns firearms and we regularly shoot together at the range. He was in the military as is his oldest child. He too is a firm believer is making firearms secure in homes. As we all should. In both folks, this concern comes from what they have seen in the ER and continuing education they get. To them, it isn't about gun registration, politics, or being idiots. It comes down to risk management. Is it none of their business? That's up to who they ask. Are they bein' nosy? Like many of us, they are just doin' what they are told by those that employ them. As I said earlier...this is not a new thing. One is not required to answer or to answer truthfully. There is no punishment for doing so.

My WIfe works for the local GP, who has been my Dr. since long before I met my Wife or she worked there...She says she has never heard anything like this asked...

Never, have I been asked any such questions...This includes during Prenatal visits with the Wife, nor neonatal visits with our child...I was the primary caregiver and attended every single appointment from the time our child was born...

Since I've been in the .mil, not a soul has asked if I've ownder guns or had the secured at all. If anyone ever did ask this question, I would look at them like:

IT'S NOBODIES BUSINESS BUT MINE!

d2wing ......It seems that this is illegal search and gun registration rolled into one.

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It is neither, unless they inserted a brain data mining probe into an orifice without your consent. If it happens again just think of waterfalls.

Both my GP and our pediatrician don't ask. They make it a statement. "If you have any guns, you keep them locked up , right?" In fact, he pediatrician doesn't even ask. She or the nurse hands out a flyer on healthcare and child development tips. The wording in the flyer changes occasionally but the basic gist is that if you have firearms you should store them outside your house and if you can't do that .you should otherwise secure them. However my pediatricians does ask what type of car seat we have, brand name, model, etc.

I'm mid-50's and I've never had a doctor/dentist/emt ask me if I have firearms. I do find it curious that some do, and if I am ever asked the response will be a polite "I prefer not to answer that, thank you."

On the rare times I go to my doctor, I've never been asked. He and I belong to the same gun club! Guess I'd ask him if he wants to go shoot.
Dan

Of course those records are no longer private but entered into a database. It seems that this is illegal search and gun registration rolled into one. I don't know if this is part of the affordable police state act, or another illegal power grab by the traitor in the White House and comrades.

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Normally, I would put this down as being a little paranoid, However, with some of the antics of this administration and the liberties they tend to take with the law when they think it is to their advantage to do so, I believe you may have a valid point.

My answer to such a question from my physician would be: "I don't have any guns." Because it is none of his business. Period.
JMHO.

Poper

JSH1 said:

Obamacare insurance doesn't exist. If someone is getting healthcare through a provision of the Affordable Care Act they either have Medicaid or private insurance. In my state the vast majority of insurance sold on the exchange is Blue Cross / Blue Shield of Alabama.

Medical records are still private even if the are kept electronically instead of in paper folders. HIPAA rules apply in either case.

Asking if you have guns in your home and if the are locked is a standard question recommended by the American Academy of Pediatrics and American Academy of Family Physicians. It is an effort to reduce accidental shootings by children and reduce firearm related suicides. If you don't want to answer the question then don't answer.

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This is 100% correct.

Drail said:

The correct answer to those questions are either No" or "That is none of your business". Most doctors that I have had to deal with in my life (and it's been a whole bunch) are essentially overeducated mindless liberal fools. Be very careful with the medical industry. It's a lot like buying a used car but your life might be on the line if you choose poorly. My wife and my mother both came very close to dying because of poorly trained doctors. Be very careful.

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Interesting. Because that is the exact opposite of my experience with doctors and the medical industry.

Then you have been very fortunate.

I'd rather not answer = Yes I have them
So you should say no.....

I was asked about a week ago during a Dr visit. I said no as I put my fleece jacket on unveiling my holstered 638 laying on the exam table. "No gun at home right now".