For self defense ammo, I'd stick to one of these that works best in your weapon. For cheap range ammo, you can use any factory FMJ.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19887
Wow! That is awesome performance out of a G30! With that load, I don't have any more reservations shooting it out of a short barrel. This is the kind of 'real world' information I've been looking for!
Another shooter on GT posted chrono results from his G30 SF and the 230 gr. +P Winchester Ranger T-series (RA45TP) from his G30 SF:
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1264284
This argument has gone on for decades and will go on for decades more.
As far as service caliber handguns are concerned, the true measure is how well you can shoot your chosen load from your chosen platform.
Arguing over ballistic numbers may be quite interesting, but what wins the...
Your research and conclusions are correct as they are on "TFL." :)
--By the way, you do a good job defending your conclusions against fanboys who will never admit that you're right, even though they could nearly duplicate the same results themselves using the same guns and same ammunition as...
I've seen this done. Some heirs can't wait to "clean out the junk" of a predecessor's house. We think we are passing a real treasure to them, and they admire it when we are alive. But when we are gone, they can't wait to turn it into fast cash.
Re-blue, refinish and restore it, or keep it...
I had the older Sig P230, the predecessor of the 232. If you're in the market for a .380, the Sig is probably one of the best. If I had to make a choice between Bersa or Sig, I'd take the Sig every time.
Agreed.
As far as handguns are concerned, many police agencies are way ahead of the military in terms of handgun selection and realistic combat training.
Saying "muzzle energy means nothing" is not the same as saying "I challenge anyone to show us a firearm round that is effective, yet has zero muzzle energy."
Zero muzzle energy? Is that what he was really saying?
Maybe the poster was trying to say that kinetic energy itself is not a...
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