domestic model 92 rifle

Made in the US and affordable don't go together very easily, unfortunately.

The Henry lever actions are okay but I really Iike the Winchesters.

MarshallDodge said:

Made in the US and affordable

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Guess we would have to define affordable lol.
500-1000
1000-1500 range
1500+

I know one with the wood quality and bluing id want would be well over a grand, and IF i could afford it id buy one.....id buy a bighorn if i could afford it too lol.

LoonWulf said:

Guess we would have to define affordable lol.
500-1000
1000-1500 range
1500+

I know one with the wood quality and bluing id want would be well over a grand, and IF i could afford it id buy one.....id the again buy a bighorn if i could afford it lol.

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You mean $350 isn't a fair price?

To have any sort of quality, I'm thinking made in the US is $1K, minimum

Just do what Springfield Armory does, buy foreign guns, polish them up a little, put one or two domestic screws in them- boom, Made In USA!

Big Horn Armory starts at about $5G.
I was looking at one a year or so ago at about $3G+









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Bighorn is really proud of themselves. But to be fair I've never seen one in the wild so I can't say if they are worth it or not. I had a couple models of theirs on my short list for future acquisitions, But them costing double what they did not that long ago kind of put me off of them.

I checked out an older 92 in a local gun shop, and I recall thinking how much smoother it was than the action on the 94 I have. It looked well used, so maybe it was just well broken in and then some. maybe they are all like that?

Checking my records: "Oct 2004 .357 Puma Model 92 copy of Winchester 1892, Import by LSI Alexandria VA, made A. Rossi SA Brazil; $295.00 with box"

A great gun for me. I cut off the 10 round limit on the magazine.plug which relieved the excess spring pressure on loading the magazine. The rear sight elevator was ok for .38 Spl Cowboy loads but wrong for .357 at 100 yards. Swapped elevators with my Taurus .22 mag pump to fix that. Works as a repeater with everything from the magazine except .38 Spl Wadcutter but I can use those loading single shot.

Good companion rifle for my .357 Ruger Security Six revolver.
It would be great to have a USA Made 1892.
But even then, I'll guess I'll dance with the partner I chose in 2004.

The Spanish adopted the 1892 as "El Tigre" The Tiger in .44-40 and made about as many as Winchester did, over a million each. El Tigre was a common weapon in the 1930s Spanish Civil War. Foreign volunteers in that war included Ernest Hemingway and George Orwell. The "stunt" guns used in US movie and TV westerns were often war surplus El Tigres but the "hero" guns were Winchester 1892s.
SO my Rossi Puma is a connection to "Farewell to Arms", "Nineteen Eighty Four" and "Wanted: Dead or Alive". Geez my Puma is a cultural treasure.

film495 said:

I checked out an older 92 in a local gun shop, and I recall thinking how much smoother it was than the action on the 94 I have. It looked well used, so maybe it was just well broken in and then some. maybe they are all like that?

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The Winchester 1892 is a lot smoother than the Winchester 1894. The shorter cartridges in the 1892 are a part, but the smaller 1892 action only drops the locking lugs for a “down-up” feel to the lever. The longer 1894 rifle rounds that it was designed for have the whole action floor drop a bit when cycling, so it’s a “down, forward, back, up” feel to the action. (Even my .44 Magnum 1894 trapper uses that longer .30-30 length action. My 1892 clones in .45 Colt and .357 are much smoother.)

Stay safe.

I laugh as I look at the 1892 rifle my brother and I bought in the sixties. Shot out 38-40 that we sent off to be rebarreled to 357 and a big loop with setscrew fabricated (Rifleman).
$45 for the gun. $125 for the rest.
I know, that was then.
Looking at the fit and finish of parts I can see Ruger doing something like this with investment casting tech but still not under $1500.

Given Ruger drop ~30 mil to buy the Marlin brand roughly three years ago I think you stand a snowball's chance in hell of seeing Ruger start making Winchester patterned guns.

I have a Rossi M92 and it's a great gun for the money spent. I will buy American when I can but it has to be worth it. I will not buy an inferior product just to say I bought American.

I bought a Rossi 92 a few years ago. I found it a rather tough row to hoe as it exited it's box. Hard to load, heavy trigger, and launched the empties into orbit. I installed a Stevesgunz spring set atter finally getting it apart. Rossi must put them together with some type of press or a guy the size of Andre the Giant does it. I also cut the magazine spring off quite a bit and it's much more civilized rifle now. Much easier to load, good trigger, and drops the empties right at your feet. I also installed a tang peep sight and a globe front sight and my accuracy improved. It feeds 38 Special flawlessly but once in a while a 357 will require jiggling the lever a little to get the round in the chamber but it is a small annoyance to the way the gun was when new.

I saw a lot of lever actions when I was shooting CAS. Mine was a 1907 1892 .44 WCF but of course modern makes were a lot more common.
The hot number was an 1873 repro with action job; a friend's real Winchester bought pretty cheap because of reblue was "broken in" about as smooth although without limber springs and short stroke lever. Not as strong as a '92 or Marlin, though.
Many Marlins, a number of Rossis. I recall one very slick gunsmith Rossi but it was very sensitive to OAL.
I saw a couple of Browning/Miroku Model 53 .32-20s with full length magazines added that were very neat little rifles.

A few struggling with Lightning reproductions.
Early days before 10 rifle shots became standard, I saw a Marlin pump that was very fast, but its 2/3 magazine was soon obsolete. Same era, one of those revolving carbines was a real bust.

i would put a japanese 1892 repo up against any new 1892 repo and many original winchester 1892,s and i have both, rpo,s and originals./

My Browning/Miroku “high wall” BPCR (with US made Badger barrel) is very good. And was less expensive than American makes.

One of my fantasy guns is a Pedersoli Winchester 1892 replica in 44 Magnum. (Why Pedersoli? They do good work. The Italians have been making very nice firearms since the 1500's.)

Another is a rolling block in 22 LR (My grandmother had one as a kitchen gun to discourage feral cats back in the early 1900's)

FWIW, a third is a Pedersoli replica Merwin & Hulbert Pocket Army with a 3.5" barrel in 44 Special. (I like the song "Mr. Shorty". But I already have a S&W 27 with a 2.5" barrel so this one is close to being covered. And, my wrist is not up to a Ruger Model 5301, 5302 or 5303.)

These are all fantasy guns because they all will likely never be made (except the rolling block--I just haven't found one that is convenient enough to buy).

(edit: Initially put in wrong reproduction arms company. I hate it when that happens. But, Pietta is nice, too.)

Dr T said:

… But I already have a S&W 27 with a 2.5" barrel so this one is close to being covered …

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Odd barrel length for a S&W Model 27.


Kevin

StrawHat said:

Odd barrel length for a S&W Model 27.

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One tends to collect odd guns. And I may have (probably) misremembered the model number. It is a 2.5" K-Frame in SS with a round butt and Pachmayr grips. And it doesn't just have "...17 inches of flame" with full bore 357 Loads--It has a fireball 6 feet in diameter.

But, I would still like a Pedersoli replica Model 92...

Dr T said:

One tends to collect odd guns. And I may have (probably) misremembered the model number. It is a 2.5" K-Frame in SS with a round butt and Pachmayr grips. And it doesn't just have "...17 inches of flame" with full bore 357 Loads--It has a fireball 6 feet in diameter.

But, I would still like a Pedersoli replica Model 92...

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I understand, K frame, probably a Model 19 of some dash. Not uncommon with 2.5” barrel.


Kevin

StrawHat said:

I understand, K frame, probably a Model 19 of some dash. Not uncommon with 2.5” barrel.


Kevin

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blued is the model 19 stainless is the model 66 nice guns! i have one of each

If you can get a Rossi for $600, I could see Henry making one for $1100, but I wouldn't expect them to take up a new rifle action line. Probably a better chance with Marlin

My early 1990s pre-Braztech, pre-button safety 357 Rossi 92 is a real sweetheart... smooth as silk.

Though it was ok, It didn't start out silky smooth new from the box. After a break-in period and some polishing of the internals it's been a pleasure to shoot. I wouldn't trade it.

I would love to have economical American made options as well, but unfortunately I don't think there's American made economical anything these days. But a guy can dream.

Anyway, I look at it this way. No matter where it's made, the 92 is an American design still beloved around the world.

Shucks, even John Browning himself left the United States after his falling out with Winchester to work for FN in Belgium. I'm as red, white, and blue as they come, but "Buy American" is ofteh more about marketing than it is anything else.

I'm proud to own my designed in America and built is Brazil Rossi 92.

Speaking of Brazil, I knew a girl from Brazil in my college days. Mmm, mmm, smokin' hot... good times! Good memories!

I've owned a '92 Rossi in .357 for a dozen years now. I slicked it up and it will feed about anything, even those long 173 gr. Keith-style cast bullets. I used it for awhile in CAS competition, shot 2 or 3 deer with it as well as a Tom. Now it lives in the laundry room gun rack doing varmint duty and goes with me when I check the cows or am just bumming around the pasture. It's so light and handy. I bought an unfinished walnut stock to replace the hardwood stock, and finished it with BLO and turpentine. It's plenty accurate to 100 yds.



I've been wanting a '92 .44 Magnum for a while to go with all the .44 Special revolvers I own. The Brownings and Winchesters, to me, are too high for what they are. I finally bought a nearly new Rossi. It's rather mundane with it's hardwood stock and the lever that lacks a good 1/4" touching the stock. I did mount a receiver sight to it and replaced the annoying front sight with the brass bead with a Patridge sight. I did some modifications to it so it will feed all but the very longest .44 Magnum reloads. Still, it has a creepy trigger I need to work on and accuracy is just so-so. The groove diameter measures .4315" which is disappointing to a cast bullet shooter.



Now after the fact, I wish I'd have just saved a little more money and just bought 1892 Chiappa, Cimarron or Taylor. The Italians make such nicely fitted firearms and they understand proper groove diameters for those who shoot cast bullets. Their .44 caliber barrels have a .429" groove diameter.



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I have a buddy that has a Rossi 92. It'd be okay if it was tinkered on a while, slicked up and new springs. It's still a fun little gun like it is.

The Winchesters made in Japan are not foreign made copies, they are Winchesters. They are made under license by Miroku, in Japan, for Winchester. To me, that's different than the others, that are merely copies. I'd rather have a real Winchester that's made in Japan than a copy of a Winchester made here or elsewhere. The fit and finish makes a lot of difference too. Anyone that's handled the Winchesters made in Japan will tell you, they are the the best Winchesters ever made.