Silencers - Why?

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JEBruns said:
I see lots of guys at the gun range with silencers on their rifles. See them a lot in pictures at competitions also. I guess I can kind of see them for home defense or maybe hunting. But why would a range gun have one? Still need to wear ear protection. I can't imagine they add anything to accuracy.

Not putting them down. I'm a big believer if whatever floats your boat. I'm just curious about why a person would drop a grand on one for a dedicated range rifle. Is it just the cool factor at work?
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Does the range also do Form 4 Transfers? There’s usually a period of months between purchase of suppressior / submission of paperwork and ATF approval to actually take possession of said item. During this interim, colloquially known as”ATF JAIL” the device is stored with the FFL who is doing the transfer. Some shops/ranges will allow you to use the item on their range if they’re doing the transfer. This is called a “conjugal visit”. You might have seen such visits.
 
I do not own a silencer-suppressor-muffler but I read nearly every thread regarding them as I am interested in buying a .22 caliber model and a .30 caliber model.
I must say it’s a darn shame that I always see the same terminology discussions regarding “silencer vs suppressor”. It’s truly annoying.
The whole world is acronym and abbreviation crazy. Someone brought up MSR - Modern Sporting Rifle. I think it’s high time there’s just one more annoying acronym / abbreviation.
SSM - Silencer Suppressor Muffler.

Of course now there will be a discussion about the proper acronym or abbreviation for these devices and quite probably a few verbal jibes tossed at me thus wasting more forum space as I just did so…Never Mind…carry on…

I need coffee. It’s to early for this..
 
But guns with the classic looks, no suppressors, are so sleek and original.

Sgt. Saunders, Kirby and Cage didn’t have them.

Pat Riot: I thought MSR means manufacturer suggested retail (price)— but I Was aware that the Iron Curtain came down in circa 1990.
 
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dranrab said:
The OP didn't give me the impression that the discussion was on 22LR silencers. The 1K reference was part of why. I'll let him clear it up if he was.
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No, I wasn't. But I was not specific either. FWIW, my most commonly used range rifles are .223 (bolt and AR) and 6.5CM.
 
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Show Me said:
Well maybe i would want to sight in for the change of point of aim. Maybe I would like to check zero before a hog hunt or setting it against the night stand. Just look the other way if it's offensive.
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Where did you get that I was calling them offensive? Jeez.
Show Me said:
Better to be on the lookout for those dangerous enthusiasts that didn't learn gun safety.
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While I agree with you here, I never said I had to be on the lookout for silencers.
 
Ignition Override said:
But guns with the classic looks, no suppressors, are so sleek and original.
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The vast majority of gun owners today, especially those who put any significant time in at the range, do not own guns because of their classic looks.
Ignition Override said:
Sgt. Saunders, Kirby and Cage didn’t have them.
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If I could own a gun just for the "classic looks", it would be Teddy Roosevelt's lever action with silencer.
roosevelt-suppressor.jpg
 
Jim Watson said:
Why aren't silencers now made eccentric so you can see regular sights?
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Not sure, but my guesses are that it's easier to manufacture something like that precisely with a concentric hole. Also don't have to worry about clocking it. For rifles, it's not an issue in most cases, due to the ubiquity of optics.
 
I used to have a Maxim Silencer Co. brochure.
They would thread your barrel, provide a clamp on adapter, or sell you the whole rig.

USFA showed prototypes of Maxim type silencers and a reproduction Woodsman to put them on. I saw them in the white at SHOT one year but nothing ever came of it.
 
JEBruns said:
Where did you get that I was calling them offensive? Jeez.

While I agree with you here, I never said I had to be on the lookout for silencers.
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Re-read that please
 
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bearcreek said:
The vast majority of gun owners today, especially those who put any significant time in at the range, do not own guns because of their classic looks.

If I could own a gun just for the "classic looks", it would be Teddy Roosevelt's lever action with silencer.
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I don't know what it is about putting a can on a lever gun, something about that combination is just really aesthetically pleasing.
 
The biggest benefit for me would be the recoil reduction without the obnoxious muzzle blast of a muzzle brake. I like short compact rifles so I tend not to use them much on rifles. Mainly just on pistol caliber SBR's and 22's
 
Ordered my first suppressor recently. Mainly for night time predator hunting. May leave it on for deer hunting, will see.
 
https://www.hornady.com/support/superformance-in-gas-operated-firearms

Watching suppressors equipped firearms........

The AR 223 left factory ammo brass full of soot. In the action also.

A 22 lr pistol, with special sub ammo, still could be heard 75 yards away, with a building in between.

A guy had a homemade suppressors made with pvc pipe on a 223 bold action. Seemed to work like a real on. Problem- no tax stamp.

Would save ones hearing? Report i read said hearing protection is still needed.

Edit/add A locked breech is needed for the lower noise levels.

https://www.ssusa.org/content/translating-suppressors/#:~:text=Typically, however, manufacturers claim a,same category as a jackhammer.

SILENT JACKHAMMER​

In the end, the question is, “How well does a suppressor suppress the sound of a gunshot?” Variables beyond the suppressor’s design include the type of ammunition, the firearm and barrel length, so there is no single inclusive answer for any individual suppressor. Typically, however, manufacturers claim a reduction of 20 to 40 decibels. Unsuppressed centerfire gunshots are in the 140-decibel range; a 40-decibel reduction puts that into about the same category as a jackhammer. Part of the reason a person perceives the suppressed firearm as quieter than a jackhammer is due to the extremely short duration of the sound of the gunshot compared to the continuous noise of the jackhammer.
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