Colorado Weapons Ban
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Steel Horse Rider
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The gang of four made a commitment to change Colorado's politics and financed it. The group included the current governor and Pat Stryker who inherited billions.
borrowedtime69
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Too damned many Commiefornians.
The Night Rider
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The reason that all these proposed laws are so boilerplate is because they're all (ultimately) coming from Bloomberg and Soros. Of course I'm not saying that Bloomberg or Sarah's actually wrote the legislation but I'm sure they're the ones that are behind the initiatives
Silverado Today My Jurisdiction Ends Here
Every time someone starts talking about how dumb the current administration is I think of this scene. There's a lesson here if you're willing to look for it....
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Every time I hear somebody talking about how stupid the opposition is it reminds me of this scene. Especially the line
"You idiot they've hit everything they've aimed at."
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Right after I got out of the Army I went to work for a carpet cleaning company in Colorado Springs.
This was in the mid-90s and even then I had a bunch of customers who were California transplants.
I remember one customer who told me that he had sold his home in California, moved to Colorado and bought literally the Identical home cash for a third of what he paid in California.
He told me that he had enough money left over from the sale of his California home that he could afford to work at a 7-Eleven and maintain his lifestyle.
The problem, as we all know, is it the guy and everybody like him also brought their California values with them.
California is another state that you couldn't give me enough money to visit, let alone live there. This is just my opinion, I do not mean to insult or offend anyone who calls California home.
Californians are blamed for the current politics in so many states, there can't be too many left in California!
Most of the voters in Colorado were born there. California is not helping, however the problem is within. I hope this bill never gets passed. Keep up the good fight Colorado.Californians are blamed for the current politics in so many states, there can't be too many left in California!
Old Dog
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Yeah, the opposition is still stupid. They've made gains in some states, for certain (especially mine). The fact is that our side, with its history of hubris and complacency, is a distinct minority in most states, with an abysmal voting record to boot.
But it doesn't change the fact that legislators in most states, almost as rule, are stupid, many criminally so. I know, I've talked with many.
Our side is also out-financed by at least 100 to 1. Maybe there's a billionaire or two out there that believe in the 2nd Amendment and support the RKBA. Still too little, too late.
Old Dog
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My old neighborhood in San Diego -- that used to be filled with older, conservative white folks, is exclusively Hispanic now, most all recent immigrants (this century) or first generation. Guess how they vote? The replacements for those moving out are arriving at our borders daily.
Up here in the PNW, we've had good reason to blame the voting shifts on the Californians that came up here in droves during the '80s, '90s and early '00s. I guess the good news is that the house I built in '06 will be a million-dollar property when we sell it. House we bought in the mid-'80s in North San Diego County for $75K sold for half a million, so there's that, too... Gotta look at the silver linings, folks.
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Were you basing this on?
I've been here for 40 years, granted in a military town, and I almost never run into people who were born in Colorado unless they're in their very early twenties
Holy crap you’re right. I would not have thought that. I don’t even want to look at Texas. California is number one of course. 6%. Thanks for calling me out.
Majority of Coloradans are not from Colorado
Colorado has the fifth-lowest share in the country of residents who were born in-state. Only 42% of Colorado residents, or 2.4 million, were actually born in Colorado.
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Calling you out has a very negative connotation. I was not calling you outHoly crap you’re right. I would not have thought that. I don’t even want to look at Texas. California is number one of course. 6%. Thanks for calling me out.
Majority of Coloradans are not from Colorado
Colorado has the fifth-lowest share in the country of residents who were born in-state. Only 42% of Colorado residents, or 2.4 million, were actually born in Colorado.
That’s an interesting map.Holy crap you’re right. I would not have thought that. I don’t even want to look at Texas. California is number one of course. 6%. Thanks for calling me out.
Majority of Coloradans are not from Colorado
Colorado has the fifth-lowest share in the country of residents who were born in-state. Only 42% of Colorado residents, or 2.4 million, were actually born in Colorado.
HowardC
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So now we're arguing about the COLO NATIVE sticker we used to see on bumpers. I thougt they were passe' anymore.
To Old Dog:
Along with the silver lining comes the silver 'fining' of exorbitant taxes on those exorbitant property valuations. Another gift from California.
-West out
To Old Dog:
Along with the silver lining comes the silver 'fining' of exorbitant taxes on those exorbitant property valuations. Another gift from California.
-West out
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My San Diego born and raised wife's "silver lining" is that she married and followed me home to Idaho 52 years ago. In fact, sometimes I still get her so riled that she says, "I only married you for a ticket out of California, you know!"
On the other hand, I have a sister over in the Boise Valley that opened up an underground sprinkler supply house back in the early '80s. And almost all of the couple of hundred thousand California transplants that moved into that valley in the last 40 years or so wanted underground sprinkler systems in their yards. Consequently, my sister and her husband live a very comfortable retirement now - other than the fact they're surrounded by California transplants.
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Ignition Override
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States’ legislatures apparently ‘copy cat’ lots of language so that they can use “Pattern-Bargaining” , which in the corporate world various mgmts use to negotiate with airline unions, but which mgmts normally vigorously deny using.
Those were stupid. Unless you're Ute, Navajo, Cheyenne, or Apache, you're probably not a native.
For the record, I was born in Colorado. Likewise, so were my father and grandfather.
.455_Hunter
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What's worse are the ones with "Not a native, but I got here as fast as I could". Usually seen on a vehicle with other certain "aligned" stickers.
HowardC
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Amen, 455 ! And Larry's right. The Indian tribes have several generations on us, notwithstanding their nomadic life. But then we're all nomads somewhere along the line. My family is approaching 100 years in Colorado after 50 years in Iowa and likely several generations in Germany.
-West out
I guess I came out like a jerk. I didn’t mean too. I liked being called out. Much of the keyboard is taken too serious. You were right. I had my facts wrong. The internet doesn’t understand tone. Wish we could have a beer and complain about what is really jacked up about this crazy AF law that wanted to be passed in a state we both care about.
DustyGmt
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I wish every LEO who felt this way would stand up and say it and if able, join the protesters and get that message out there. It always warms my heart to see department heads going on record, "we will not enforce this unconstitutional law".
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I just heard on KRDO that they are postponing the vote on this bill.
I'm wondering if Polis told them he wasn't going to sign it
I'm wondering if Polis told them he wasn't going to sign it
While totally understanding that there are anti gun republicans out there as well, at the federal level it seems we are only one house rep away from draconian gun control. Colorado notwithstanding, I fear this discussion is about to become national. We haven’t been this close since the 90’s or so.
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2A was "political" when it was first adopted.
<pure skylarking>
I wonder if Polis is positioning himself for a sea change in public opinion.
I also wonder if he's heard me screeching about bringing charges of perjury against politicians for violating their oaths of office. (The trouble being that under our present setup, a law ain't unConstitutional until SCOTUS says it is, so "unConstitutionality" is a matter only of your and my individual worthless native English-speaking opinions.)
There were some suggestions I don't remember clearly that one or more countries have extrajudicial means of determining binding "legality" or "constitutionality" of proposed legislation. While there are legitimate differences of interpretation of some of our own Constitutional provisions, the overwhelming weight of it is written in plain unequivocal no-pussyfootin'-around standard English.
In this regard, I have often stated that the second Amendment is one of the shortest and plainest statements of things the government (and now the States) cannot do.
It was written...
"...in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its* powers...
</pure skylarking>
Terry, 230RN
REF (Preamble to the Bill Of Rights):
* "its" = "the government's"
I wonder if Polis is positioning himself for a sea change in public opinion.
I also wonder if he's heard me screeching about bringing charges of perjury against politicians for violating their oaths of office. (The trouble being that under our present setup, a law ain't unConstitutional until SCOTUS says it is, so "unConstitutionality" is a matter only of your and my individual worthless native English-speaking opinions.)
There were some suggestions I don't remember clearly that one or more countries have extrajudicial means of determining binding "legality" or "constitutionality" of proposed legislation. While there are legitimate differences of interpretation of some of our own Constitutional provisions, the overwhelming weight of it is written in plain unequivocal no-pussyfootin'-around standard English.
In this regard, I have often stated that the second Amendment is one of the shortest and plainest statements of things the government (and now the States) cannot do.
It was written...
"...in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its* powers...
</pure skylarking>
Terry, 230RN
REF (Preamble to the Bill Of Rights):
* "its" = "the government's"
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