Gun Security App

Why not just use an AirTag? And you don’t have to tell your software that it’s tracking a “gun.”
Attaching it to the gun would be be the biggest issue. Someone should make an air tag adapter for a pic rail, probably easy peasy for anyone with a 3d printer.
 
I don't want any apps for anything. If something can go online or on a phone app, then it's subject to being hacked. I use my phone to make calls, or text, and nothing else. Not interested in a carry gun app, I know where mine are.
 
Did i read the OP wrong? I read it as an arrangement that kept the two (phone and gun) within "handshaking distance" of each other. If your phone lost the gun's tiny signal the phone would alert you with the fact that the gun was out of range and to check it out. "Oh crap, I must've left in in the crapper." (Or on the seat of the car or on the bench at the range or whatever.)

This, regardless of where the pair were, and the gun's signal would have to be too small to be tracked by a malevolent observer.

Did I invent something here, or was that what the OP meant?

One objection I could see is if the "malevolent observer" was a place that prohibited guns having their own sensors near their entry ways. However, that would be different from a "malevolent observer" like a crook or the ATF randomly scouting around for such a known signal.

I sympathize a little with "if you don't know where your gun is, you shouldn't have one," and that sounds good when you say it fast, but I also know human nature.

Terry, 230RN
 
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I sympathize a little with "if you don't know where your gun is, you shouldn't have one," but I also know human nature.
When human nature degrades to the point of not being able to keep track of the EDC - it happens! - harsh language is a suitable alternative. The older one gets, the harsher the language we have at our disposal.
 
If I get your drift, that's why I said "I sympathize a little..."

I can see another objection in that if they can know where your phone is, they know where your gun is, but that goes away if your gun is out of range because you forgot it, in which case you adrenalize your search (and I guess you can tell when you get near it , like the old "You're getting warm, you're getting cold" search game).

I should mention that I'm on record as objecting to any electronical devices relating to gun "safety" on general old fart principles.
 
OK, from someone who did IT security for many years, there is good and bad here.

At it's core, the device looks to be using some kind of short-range radio to announce itself to your phone. Probably some form of Bluetooth low-energy. Which means that there is no reason for a cloud connection or any internet connection between your phone or the device. So it sounds like he made a good start. To be clear, you can't track it if it goes away. Your phone just yells if it leaves a certain numbe of feet from your gun, (To avoid leaving it in the bathroom, or pick-holsters)

However, the sheer fact that you have to create an account is a warning sign that they want to use something on your phone at some point. And the account is required. The device is not a GPS, but your phone is.

Most worrying is the Privacy Notice:

PRIVACY AND COOKIE NOTICE

GUNNY Company collects and processes the personal data of the visitors of the Website and users of the Application.

That's it. "process" can refer to selling, sharing, giving away, and really anything they want. It is an open privacy policy that really doesn't limit them.
Most privacy notices are multiple pages long and they try to hide their sharing of data under 10 feet of BS.
Okay, thanks. I see now it's some kind of proximity sensor. It transmits as long as the battery stays good, and it's received on the phone. Probably by Bluetooth.

I wonder if you can set the distance, if it's fixed, or if it's by receive power. If it had a similar range to Bluetooth, you could leave a gun in a restroom in a pizza place and you still wouldn't know it was gone until someone finders keepers'ed it and walked out the door. Or just dropped it in the toilet tank for laughs. Or did the right thing and called management or the cops.

Hopefully the thing doesn't blurt out some recognizable alert. Somebody steals your phone and 30 feet away they realize you have a gun. Or you walk away from your car in the courthouse parking lot, and your phone alerts every miscreant within earshot that you left your gun in the car.
 
Selling personal data would be a concern. Not sure what the developer will track and what data might be sold. I’m one who doesn’t advertise owing guns—no stickers or clothing to make others aware.
I'm rather late to the party, but...did we not learn from the Liberty Safe fiasco?
 
Like an Apple AirTag or Tile placed on your luggage?
Nowhere near the same thing. Luggage has a high probability of being lost (dare I say...stolen?) while traveling.
Yet every person on this forum does it all the time.
This is something I've struggled with for years. I hate it that we can't have a simple, open conversation in this country without fear of victimization or reprisal.
 
Texas superintendent resigns after student finds his gun in school bathroom

Security officer leaves gun unattended at Story Elementary School

After leaving a gun unattended in school restroom, Granbury teacher is put on leave

Whitney HS vice principal left gun unattended in bathroom

Weapon found in faculty bathroom, Lubbock ISD officer on leave

2 Texas School Security Officers Fired for Leaving Unattended Guns on Campus

Now.........thats just a few stories on firearms left in restrooms in Texas schools that were discovered by students or other teachers/staff in the last few years. There's more....a lot more. How many times was a gun left unattended and the carrier went back for it before someone else discovered? How many of these instances of negligence weren't reported?

Not to mention the number of Google hits if I had expanded my search beyond "firearms left in Texas schools".

There sure as hell is a problem. I'm not saying a cell phone app is the answer, but to dismiss it as a "solution in search of a problem" defies reality.
People laugh at me, but I'm a big a fan of the old school, WW I era lanyards on handguns.
 
Selling personal data would be a concern. Not sure what the developer will track and what data might be sold. I’m one who doesn’t advertise owing guns—no stickers or clothing to make others aware.
I have even discontinued any shooting sports related magazine subscriptions, sadly. Woke corporate supermarkets have stripped them from their magazine sections, too.
 
Nope I know where my firearms are. People today can't put there phones down long enough to see what's going on around them as it is...
 
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