Gun Security App

[bdickens]

I think it is stupid. If you can't keep track of it, you have no business owning a gun in the first place.

 

[DeepSouth]

Why not just use an AirTag? And you don’t have to tell your software that it’s tracking a “gun.”

Attaching it to the gun would be be the biggest issue. Someone should make an air tag adapter for a pic rail, probably easy peasy for anyone with a 3d printer.

 

[Ks5shooter]

Im out.

 

[Ks5shooter]

I mean if you cant keep track of you firearm,you shouls not own/carry one.

 

[Shanvanvocht]

I mean if you cant keep track of you firearm,you shouls not own/carry one.

Don't worry, New Jersey already knows where your guns are.

 

[InTheSwamp]

I don't care how strong the encryption might be, the only "App" I use is somewhere between my ears.

 

[mm93]

I don't want any apps for anything. If something can go online or on a phone app, then it's subject to being hacked. I use my phone to make calls, or text, and nothing else. Not interested in a carry gun app, I know where mine are.

 

[DeepSouth]

I don't care how strong the encryption might be, the only "App" I use is somewhere between my ears.

Brave man!
Personally I wouldn’t even consider Neuralink, not now, not ever.

 

[230RN]

Did i read the OP wrong? I read it as an arrangement that kept the two (phone and gun) within "handshaking distance" of each other. If your phone lost the gun's tiny signal the phone would alert you with the fact that the gun was out of range and to check it out. "Oh crap, I must've left in in the crapper." (Or on the seat of the car or on the bench at the range or whatever.)

This, regardless of where the pair were, and the gun's signal would have to be too small to be tracked by a malevolent observer.

Did I invent something here, or was that what the OP meant?

One objection I could see is if the "malevolent observer" was a place that prohibited guns having their own sensors near their entry ways. However, that would be different from a "malevolent observer" like a crook or the ATF randomly scouting around for such a known signal.

I sympathize a little with "if you don't know where your gun is, you shouldn't have one," and that sounds good when you say it fast, but I also know human nature.

Terry, 230RN

 

[InTheSwamp]

I sympathize a little with "if you don't know where your gun is, you shouldn't have one," but I also know human nature.

When human nature degrades to the point of not being able to keep track of the EDC - it happens! - harsh language is a suitable alternative. The older one gets, the harsher the language we have at our disposal.

 

[230RN]

If I get your drift, that's why I said "I sympathize a little..."

I can see another objection in that if they can know where your phone is, they know where your gun is, but that goes away if your gun is out of range because you forgot it, in which case you adrenalize your search (and I guess you can tell when you get near it , like the old "You're getting warm, you're getting cold" search game).

I should mention that I'm on record as objecting to any electronical devices relating to gun "safety" on general old fart principles.

 

[wayneinFL]

OK, from someone who did IT security for many years, there is good and bad here.

At it's core, the device looks to be using some kind of short-range radio to announce itself to your phone. Probably some form of Bluetooth low-energy. Which means that there is no reason for a cloud connection or any internet connection between your phone or the device. So it sounds like he made a good start. To be clear, you can't track it if it goes away. Your phone just yells if it leaves a certain numbe of feet from your gun, (To avoid leaving it in the bathroom, or pick-holsters)

However, the sheer fact that you have to create an account is a warning sign that they want to use something on your phone at some point. And the account is required. The device is not a GPS, but your phone is.

Most worrying is the Privacy Notice:

PRIVACY AND COOKIE NOTICE​

GUNNY Company collects and processes the personal data of the visitors of the Website and users of the Application.

That's it. "process" can refer to selling, sharing, giving away, and really anything they want. It is an open privacy policy that really doesn't limit them.
Most privacy notices are multiple pages long and they try to hide their sharing of data under 10 feet of BS.

Okay, thanks. I see now it's some kind of proximity sensor. It transmits as long as the battery stays good, and it's received on the phone. Probably by Bluetooth.

I wonder if you can set the distance, if it's fixed, or if it's by receive power. If it had a similar range to Bluetooth, you could leave a gun in a restroom in a pizza place and you still wouldn't know it was gone until someone finders keepers'ed it and walked out the door. Or just dropped it in the toilet tank for laughs. Or did the right thing and called management or the cops.

Hopefully the thing doesn't blurt out some recognizable alert. Somebody steals your phone and 30 feet away they realize you have a gun. Or you walk away from your car in the courthouse parking lot, and your phone alerts every miscreant within earshot that you left your gun in the car.

 

[Armybrat]

Sounds like an FBI/ATF sting operation.

Fixed that for you.