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Mannlicher Pistol Model 1901 - A very neat pistol.

Schwarzlose m/07 and Skoda M1909:



Ultramatic LV:



IM Arms series:





Last-Ditch Imperial Japanese weapons:

some Fugly guns

but then again all guns are beautiful

Not quite all guns are beautiful:

http://arthurshall.com/x_2007_manly_firearms.shtml

THE TEN MANLIEST FIREARMS
by Guest Author, Crazy Einar
Manly Firearms, Manly Guns

This was a hard piece to write, because guns by definition are manly, except for Berettas, gold-plated TEC9s, .25 caliber pistols or anything made by the French. To simplify things, I have limited it to modern cartridge firearms a man might, can, and should collect and shoot. There are certainly other manly weapons, and you may have a different list. As long as the list contains nothing French, gold-plated, .25 or with pearl grips (which Patton correctly observed are the mark of a New Orleans pimp), it is a good list.

(Article is here)

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Re the Steyr AMR, madmike said,

It won't be 4700fps for more than a few FEET. Friction will very rapidly slow it.

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I dunno about that. The projectile (a saboted dart)weighs about 555 grains and it's .22 inches in diameter, made of tungsten (very dense --about 1 3/4 times as dense as lead.)

Pretty good sectional density in my book.

Even applying an advertising hype factor of 10%, it ought to hold that velocity pretty good, despite the fin drag.

Terry, 230RN

It's got nothing to do with the density. There's a flat limit of how fast you can travel in atmosphere without either gravity or power. Something that small can't maintain the velocity against friction. There's a reason most bullets don't go much over 3500 fps. 30-06 Spfd accelerator starts at 4080, but inside 100 yards is below 3500. 7mm Firehawk starts at 3625, inside 100 yards is down to 3373. .17 Remington, 4040/3284. .223 40 gr, 3800/3305. .220 Swift, 4200/3678, then 3190 by 200 yards. .243 55 gr, 4025/3597. You need tremendously more propellant to get those velocities, and there simply isn't enough mass to maintain it.

Now, if you get into DU APFSDS tank rounds, or meteors, you can do it...but not stuff measured in fractions of an ounce. And fins add MORE friction, not less.

Okay, so it's close to an ounce and finned...it still won't hold it long. Oscillation plus fin drag.

Do they have test figures, because I'm curious now.

Madmike:

Hm. I posted this on the wrong thread a couple of days ago:

I'm not sure I want to go along 100% with the penetration claims at 1000 yards either, but I must disagree with you on the effect of sectional density.

Sectional density (and projectile profile --added later) has everything to do with velocity retention, and comparing lead hunting bullets with a tungsten 555 grain "arrow" less than 1/4" diameter is not appropriate.

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Sorry about that.

I still want to see neutral test figures. Not that there's any practical way to shoot such a beast.

I was crunching numbers for meteors last night, and light gas guns as well. For a lot of materials and launches, faster = slower, when all is said and done. The velocity is utterly wasted as heat.

These won't be going that fast, but they're still not going to be efficient or practical, IMO.

4 barrel unknown maker

That 4-barrel looks like a German Bar or Scheintod pistol, but we'd need more info to figure it out. These were made in both bullet and tear-gas versions.

This is a Feinwerkbau Model 2 Co2 pistol.

And a .45 that must have someting to do with the president???

This ones unusual

http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/07/17/antique-railroad-poc.html

I've posted this elsewhere but it should go here too:



This thread makes me want to get a CNC machine and a manufactures license. Who wouldn't love a new production Lugers and Broomhandle mausers?

FBR,

Was there a theory behind bending the barrel on that FWB model 2 air gun?

http://bifsniff.com/images/franks-blog/batman-***.jpg

I would LOOOOOOVE to have this

Dang that Manba looks ALOT like a colt Double Eagle!

Cannonball, you win! I love the little dudes, and the 2 ARs with C-mags!

What is that cool-looking rifle just below the brass-knuckle abortion?

Those are some wierd guns.