Why hasn't glock designed new guns? No Rifles? No micro 380 acp? No Revolvers?

"In the lives of men[, nations, and businesses], you are either growing, or you are dying."

Nearly all long guns are AKs I thought.


Looks like there's already a variety.

Ken, that is classic!

It would be interesting if Glock made a 1911 style handgun... what would we argue about then?

I've actually seen online a "Glock-type airsoft pistol" that clearly had an exposed hammer.

"Glock perfection." Any other design would not live up to current design.

I see no excuse for Glock to not build a single stack subcompact 9mm and .40S&W gun, they already did it in .45ACP. I doubt it would be a big deal for them to do it in 9mm and .40S&W too, there seems to be at least some demand for it because I see it mentioned all the time.

I've thought the idea of a Glock pistol caliber carbine (that of course uses Glock pistol mags) would work for a while now, it fits somewhat with their current product line and while pistol caliber carbines aren't wildly popular, I think Glock would sell enough of them (especially to Glock pistol owners) that it would make it worth their while.

But Glock AR15s and 1911s and revolvers? Come on now... Be serious...

Glock has a niche that they do well and there is nothing wrong with that. However, it does kind of annoy me that Glock puts a new recoil spring and two pieces of plastic in the box for back straps and calls it a new generation but the gun is the same price or more than similar guns from companies that actually spend money to develop new firearms. But prices are a function of demand; not of cost.

Glock reminds me of Ruger under the leadership of Bill Ruger. Ruger didn't take advantage of its resources until Bill Ruger passed away. The new Ruger has introduced new designs that never would've seen the light of day under Bill Ruger. I'm not saying all of those designs have been marketing successes, but you can't deny that Ruger has become an innovative company. Gaston Glock has no interest in anything more than variations of the original design. When Gaston Glock dies, if his heirs have any sense, they'll realize that they're missing out on major markets. I think that under new leadership you'll soon see Glock single stacks and maybe even Glock combat rifles. I pray that they don't hire someone like Ron Cohen.

Glock has already peaked. They hit their stride with the law enforcement market in the 90's but they have been slowly losing it in the past few years. The Gen4 Glocks are not as good as previous models and people know it. Smith and Wesson and Springfield just to name a few are already making inroads to the LE market that Glock owned a decade ago. And guns like the HK P30, SW M&P, Walther P99/PPQ that have all of the good things Glock has, and some Glock doesn't are pushing them out of the way.

Glock needs to make itself relevant again before they get edged out. A new product could be a way to do that.

Market security breeds complacence. They're gonna get the rug pulled out from under them one of these days, just like they did to the combat revolver companies in the 80's.

Glock reminds me of Ruger under the leadership of Bill Ruger. Ruger didn't take advantage of its resources until Bill Ruger passed away. The new Ruger has introduced new designs that never would've seen the light of day under Bill Ruger. I'm not saying all of those designs have been marketing successes, but you can't deny that Ruger has become an innovative company. Gaston Glock has no interest in anything more than variations of the original design. When Gaston Glock dies, if his heirs have any sense, they'll realize that they're missing out on major markets.

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That's a very good point. While Ruger might be accused to "copying" ideas, realistically they've been pretty good about bringing new products to market and financially they're one of the better performing firearms manufacturers - WITHOUT the heavy law enforcement contracts.

Another good/better example in my mind is Kel-tec. Kel-tec started small and seems intent to trying new stuff and making products people want at a good price. The PMR-30 is a great example of that. The Kel-tec KSG is another great example. I'd expect as time goes on we'll see more and more creative things out of them, as well as them expanding into some of the more traditional markets (ie, more full-sized designs that eventually could even compete for LE contracts).

You already have Glock Perfection. What else do you need?

A lot of people don't really understand Glock. What Glock does is make millions and millions of identical pistols for various international military and police organizations. Also, they just so happen to sell some to the American public.

It's not in their interest to make me-too AR-15's, hunting rifles, trap shotguns, revolvers, or 9mm carbines unless they can sell them by the millions and millions to international police and military organizations.

A 9mm carbine would have made sense a couple years back, but police seem to have moved on.

Glock has a factory in Smyrna Georgia. They can make whatever kind of tiny little .380 they want for the American market; they just choose not to.

Glock seems to be driven by contracts. LE, various military organizations across the world, etc. I think the most likely thing they'll do is introduce their own 5.56 carbine. I don't see them doing a pistol carbine, or a new pistol design (remember when Coke changed their recipe?).

Personally, I'd like a .22LR Glock, or perhaps a small, single stack 9mm. But they won't make something they can't get contracts for. Oh well... I'm a Sig guy anyway... though, they ARE pulling me in and making me really want a G20...

Norman Greenbaum effect?

Evil Monkey said:

glock pistols are designed for combat and they are perfect the way they are. They pretty much make every other handgun obsolete, except for the copies out there like the m&p, sigma, sd9/40, etc.

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An M&P isn't a copy.

A copy doesn't improve on the original.

The m&p is basically the perfection glock should have had


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The m&p is basically the perfection glock should have had

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That's debatable.

" but you can't deny that Ruger has become an innovative company."

I disagree that Ruger "has become" because they already were. Bill Ruger introduced innovative firearms with innovative processes decade after decade. That's how he built the company from scratch and grew the company without acquiring debt. They just weren't the guns you wanted to see.

From what I hear, the Springfield M1A is pretty nice, and I love the XD.

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Springfield doesn't make the XD they just import it. I wouldn't be happy if Glock slapped their name on a piece of crap from Croatia. Not to say the XD is a piece of crap.

I would like to see an AR15 platform or a 9mm carbine. I heard rumor that Glock now has a 100 yard range.

I have the Glock Knife. I like it, very durable. I have two of the shovels. I keep them in vehicles in the winter and in the 4 wheeler in the summer. Great tools.

Most likely because they make Curtain rods. They're a one trick pony and will likely remain a one trick pony.

There's no question that if Glock made a single-stack 9mm for concealed carry that it would be a RUNAWAY hit.

Also, a Glock 9mm carbine that is similar in performance to the Kel-Tec Sub2K would also be a RUNAWAY hit.

I'd buy a Glock pocket 9mm and a Glock 9mm with threaded barrel TOMORROW. Actually, I lied. I'd buy them TODAY.

I love the one trick pony comments. What does that mean? With the exception of a few every other gun company seems to just copy Glocks designs and they make a 1911 and an ar15 to become a full line manufacturer. Does anybody actually design anything new these days?

Walking Dead said:

I love the one trick pony comments. What does that mean? With the exception of a few every other gun company seems to just copy Glocks designs and they make a 1911 and an ar15 to become a full line manufacturer. Does anybody actually design anything new these days?

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Other than different color variations and such, you are correct.

I give Sig Sauer credit for trying something totally new with the P250.

dirtengineer said:

I would trade my Kahr for a single stack subcompact glock if it existed.

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I don't think I would, based on the example of the G36. The Kahr is so very slim and concealable and I suspect the Glock would be quite a bit fatter.