10/22 Build or 10/22 target??

[AKElroy]

I am pondering a 10/22. I do not own one now, although I have borrowed & fired one quite a bit. i do not care for the stock setup. I really like a bull barrel & glass, so that is what I am looking for.

Do I want a 10/22 target as Ruger makes it for around $350.00, or should I go with a base 10/22 for $200.00, get a Butler Creek conversion stock & match bull barrel for $150.00, and then sell the original bits? ( I am seeing them fetch $60.00 or so on GB)

Is the Butler Creek setup comparable to the factory target rig? The laminated stock on the factory version is not a factor for me.

 

[AKElroy]

Anyone? Class? Anyone? Anyone?

Bueller?

 

[Txhillbilly]

I have built them and also have a 10/22T. Unless your going to buy an aftermarket lite weight bull barrel and want to do other mods,like the trigger assembly,change the stock,etc.,I would just get the 10/22T.

Your not going to see much,if any improvement in accuracy with the Butler Creek stuff over the factory 10/22T. All of the new Ruger's do come with a plastic trigger assembly,and I'm not too fond of them.I would look for an older/used one with a metal trigger assembly.

You can sink money into these little guns pretty fast if you aren't careful,I just built one for a friend and he has over $650 in it. It shoots good,but not any better than my 10/22T,it just weighs half as much.

 

[slabuda]

Anyone? Class? Anyone? Anyone?

Bueller?

Seriously? 22 minutes after you first posted? I have a puppy with more patience.

BUt seriously. I was contemplating the same thing. You can sink LOTS of money VERY fast into a 10/22. And thats why I havent gotten one yet as Im broke.

 

[AKElroy]

Seriously? 22 minutes after you first posted?

Busy board tonight; I was pg 3 after 20 minutes; the black hole. And yes, I am uber ADHD.

 

[Runningman]

Buy a 10/22T. Had good luck with my 10/22T.

A Butler Creek conversion... Been there done that. No so good.

 

[ArmedBear]

Magnum Research Magnum Lite.

No need to sink more money after you buy it. It's already done, and nicer than a Ruger will ever be no matter what you spend on modifying it (due to a nicer receiver).

 

[federalfarmer]

Armed Bear gave me that suggestion a while back and its going to cost me good money! Listen to the man!

They make great stuff. I had the chance to handle some at a show and was sold.

 

[browningguy]

I built one a while back. Started with the Walmart Special, added a Fajen adjustable stock on sale for about $70 or $80, a Green Mountain Barrel on sale for I think $119 or $129. I still haven't done anything with the factory trigger but it shoots well.



Before mods shooting Ely Match:



After mods shooting the same batch of Ely Match:

 

[AKElroy]

Magnum Research Magnum Lite.

I checked these out; very interesting. Found one with an adjustable stock that would be perfect for the kiddo's. Having to ponder this one; it is roughly twice the cost of the factory T version.

With the graphite barrel, I wonder how long it will last. This will get a lot of shooting. I guess the heat dissipation properties might even add to longevity.

With regard to optics, I see many of these with lower quality but very high power tasco's or bushnell's. I woul prefer to sitck with maybe a little less power & go for a higher quality nikon prostaff or buckmaster; 3x9? This will used for paper punching, squirrels & rabbits. Thoughts?

 

[ArmedBear]

If you look at browningguy's target, I think you will agree that you couldn't spend too much on a scope. A 4-14X50mm from a high-end maker wouldn't be excessive. So I'd say, put on the best scope you can. .22s may not shoot as far as a .308, but the targets tend to be far smaller. Also, with sufficient magnification and sharp optics, you can see the holes as you shoot. This is great for training, IMO.

I'd say a 3-9x40mm Buckmaster wouldn't even quite be enough to match the capabilities and applications of the sort of rifle we're talking about, but it would beat the hell out of something less.

I have a 4x33mm Nikon on a Marlin 60 for small game. It's a quality scope, but for serious target shooting, I'd want more.

 

[berettashotgun]

To some 10/22's are like heroin; addictive as all heck.
AR15 are cheaper I think.
I've bought Italian shotguns cheaper than a 10/22 modification part.
I have the parts of a new one downstairs right now - it needs a bolt and the after market 95% stock needs some polyurethane.
I hate my addiction.
Any help groups for sissy whiners?

 

[browningguy]

I would agree that you need something with at least 14 or 16 power at the top end if you want to shoot little bitty groups. Mine is a 32 but I rarely crank it up that high, I normally use 24x when shooting at 100 yards and 16x when shooting at 50 yards.

Poor old Berettashotgun, this may not be the right place to find a support group to stop buying.

 

[Uncle Mike]

I checked these out; very interesting. Found one with an adjustable stock that would be perfect for the kiddo's. Having to ponder this one; it is roughly twice the cost of the factory T version.

Yes, but......a Bentley is several times the cost of the run o' the mill Chebby, but what a difference in ride, comfort and performance!

This too can equate to comparing the Ruger 10/22-T and the Magnum Research unit.

Simply said, for happier days and sleep filled nights....get the Magnum Research!

...or, get into Brownells and order all the applicable parts, hang out on Rimfirecentral.com, read all the stickies and build your own....Me, I am sick of putting together 10/22's!
We did that poop for several years hear at the shop, supposedly it was a bread and butter venue...right!

Build your own....fun and rewarding, but costly....buy the Magnum Research, more costly than purchasing the already grossly overpriced 10/22 but much better and instantly rewarding.

 

[DavidABQ]

I have a 10/22-T and really enjoy shooting it but be careful. Regardless of which route you take a 10/22 platform can get very expensive and it is a slippery slope indeed.

I recommend that you STAY AWAY from Rimfire Central.
www.rimfirecentral.com

 

[gunsandreligion]

Browningguy, what scope do you have there?

 

[AKElroy]

I'd say a 3-9x40mm Buckmaster wouldn't even quite be enough to match the capabilities and applications of the sort of rifle we're talking about, but it would beat the hell out of something less.

I know this is right, but I have the Nikon on hand & am trying to put it to work. I have a Marlin 7000 heavy barrel w/ a 4X14 AO Bushnell scope. It was not expensive, and works fine on that Marlin. In fact, it shoots 1/2 MOA w/ Ely Tennex @ 50 yrds. The rangemaster thought it was a freak of nature for a $100.00 marlin to group like that.

It is also crap, and jams every 8 to 10 rounds, and the button safety, plastic, now hangs up so badly I have to tap it with the butt of my knife. I am ready for a quality .22, but I can't go a grand.

Sooooo....I now have an AK to sell. Watch for it, buy it, and help feed the addiction.

 

[browningguy]

My scope is a cheap-a@@ 8-32 Truglo that I would never recommend to anyone. It was on sale at Natchezss.com for $69 so I thought why not. To be honest it's ok on the .22, it is an AO scope, it holds zero well, it has a lot of flare if the sun is anywhere near the objective. But if I leave it below 24x it works ok.

 

[ArmedBear]

I know this is right, but I have the Nikon on hand & am trying to put it to work.

That sounds like a good mission for it.

I was responding to what you wrote about other people putting really cheap scopes on elaborate, expensive rifle builds. I was just trying to say that, whatever you do put on it, won't be "too much scope" so don't worry about OVERdoing it. Definitely use that Nikon. Good glass.

 

[gunsandreligion]

For the OP if you like you can get the 10/22 target tactical, wich sounds like what you really want. and by the way can any one
recommend some good glass around $250? all I
can find for 22's is crap under $100,and I'm not doing that again.

 

[AKElroy]

ArmedBear Wrote: Magnum Research Magnum Lite.

OK, AB. I have taken the plunge & ordered this, should have it by Friday. I also won the bid on a Bushnell Elite 3200, 5X15X50 AO. I now believe I have a rig that will far outshoot this old man. I will post pics when received, assembled & sighted.

My backyard coons, Dillos & tree rats are now on notice!!!

 

[non2os13]

i have around $550 in my 10/22. there is still plenty left to buy.

 

[ClemY]

I confess I had to think long and hard choosing between a 10/22T and building a 10/22 from the ground up. I decided to go with the build. I got the cheapest 10/22 from Wally World and then stripped it. I put in a Green Mountain 20” stainless fluted barrel, a CPC bolt and played with trigger parts before tossing the crap and going with a Kidd trigger. I also found I prefer a bolt handle from a 10/22 magnum for my 10/22. It is in a Hogue Overmolded stock with a simple Weaver 2x7 rimfire scope. I have been very pleased with the result and it was a lot of fun to put together.

 

[lawboy]

1. Go lightweight if you want it for kids.
2. Keep your factory barrel, and use it. The heavy bull barrels are a waste of money. I have bulls in steel, stainless steel, and carbon from Volquartsen, Clark, Clerke, GM, Lilja, and have had others. They don't do very much that my rack full of factory barrels can't do. Some of them are more accurate than the factory barrels, some are not. And even so, the type of use I put a 10/22 to does not make the fat, heavy barrels worth it. Silhouette is different and I do have a very accurate, heavy barrel on my comp. gun. The others get factory tubes worked over somewhat at times, but still factory barrels. The expensive barrels are sitting in the rack.
3. For a stock, go lightweight and avoid an offhand specific design if the gun is to be a multipurpose tool. If you are going to build 3-6 10/22s, fine, get all the specialized stocks you want. If you are going to build one gun, get a general purpose stock. If you will need to pack or conceal the gun get a folding BC or some other folding stock.
4. If the gun is not to be used for long distance shooting at small targets, but for general plinking and pest control, get a small LIGHT red dot sight. The kids will love it, you will love it, and and any accuracy difference will be moot under the use specifications. If you want to hit small things out there at 100 yards or so, get a 3-9 with good glass. Weaver and some Simmons models come to mind. Get an A/O model.
5. For the kids Don't get a KID trigger. I have two. They are awesome. One is on my sil. gun, one is in the safe gathering dust because the other 7 10/22s I have work better for me with smooth, predictable, but heavier worked over factory triggers because I use them for plinking, action matches, and for loaners and for training people with a wide variety of gun familiarity and lack thereof. The KID is in a class of its own, but it is a small, specialized class IMHO.
6. What ever you do, enjoy the heck out of the gun. Oh, and build it, you will enjoy it more that way.

 

[Uncle Mike]

Nice post Lawboy.....