14000 Indiana CCW'ers may be "outed"; please help

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The Fort Wayne, Indiana News Sentinel published an article last week about the average CCW holder's characteristics, and proposed listing the names and towns of residence of all 14,000 permittees in Allen County Indiana on their website and in their paper! The logic of this is that it will serve the public by letting everyone know if a gun owner is lurking in their neighborhood. :barf:

Now they've said they're going to "let the people decide" if they should do this by voting in their online poll so PLEASE do the people of Fort Wayne/Allen County a service by stuffing the ballot box and telling the paper and it's owner Knight-Ridder what you think about this.

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Polls up! Go & vote guys (and gals).

BTW, for commentary I wrote that public safety is better served when the criminal doesn't know who's armed.
 
I would strongly suggest doing something other than voting in the polls.

Call the newspaper and ask to speak to the sales dept.

Tell them that you will not do business with any company that advertises in their paper if they post the CCW info.

If you're feeling particularly nasty, call those companies that advertise in the paper as well.
 
I suggested that their time would be better spent publishing the names of people who have sex with the lights on. These idiots probably think THAT'S a good idea too.
 
This shows how out of touch those journalists are that they think they are doing a "service" to the "people" by publishing such a list
what a bunch of baloney
BSR
 
I don't know anything about law, but wouldn't that violate those people's right to privacy? Couldn't there be a legal way of keeping them from publishing such a list?
 
I suggested that their time would be better spent publishing the names of people who have sex with the lights on.
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Either way, if I lived there my name would wind up published for no purpose other than letting people know more about me than they should...
 
I set out to talk to editors and ethicists, professors and prosecutors from across the country to try to assess what would provide the greatest good for the most people: posting the list or not.
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Yet another yellow journalist who can't tell right from wrong.
 
Perhaps the paper would also be interested in publishing the names and phone numbers of all their employees, including their executives.

I for one would like to know if there were any anti-privacy liberals in my neighborhood.

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Here's my comment:

I think Prosecutor Richard's comment is spot on. This database would be putting honest citizens at risk. It would point out to criminals to houses that had guns facilitating breaking in to gain access to them.

Is it the intent of this paper to arm criminals?
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20 to 1 against posting CCW names

As of Tuesday, the voting was about 630 NO, and 32 YES.

That's almost 20 to 1 against.

I have the feeling it will not be posted on the newspaper's web site.
 
So, the list of editors of the newspaper is right infront of you. Any of you people know how to conduct a full background check?

If they publish ccw information, i recommend you publish their home addresses, phone numbers, childrens names, where they go to school, social security number, last years income, credit history, driving record, criminal record, and any other personal information you can find in public records that you are sure they wouldn't appreciate. I promise you, it will take them about 10 minutes to fold under pressure.
 
You have to be at least 18 to get an Indiana gun permit, but you have to be 21 to buy the pistol it allows you to carry. The database shows 51 of the nearly 14,000 license holders are under 20. No effort is under way to change the age requirements.
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That's because your dad can buy the gun and give it or sell it to you at age 18 and there's nothing the federal government or most states can do about it. It's completely legal. Private sales are not regulated in the vast majority of states and in states where they are mildly regulated, (like PA who requires a background check for handguns) there is a clear exception for parent-child and spouse-spouse transferrs. I'm 19 and own three handguns legally, although every range i go to denies me the right to shoot them because they think they know the law or their insurance won't allow it.
 
Absolutely not. This is a violation of privacy to the LEGAL permit holders and moreso, this publicity stunt puts LEGAL permit holders at the mercy of anti-gun rights activists. Permit holders are required to keep their weapons concealed... you are essentially pulling up their collective shirts and saying "Hey everyone, look what I found!"

/Arcli9ht
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Permit holders are required to keep their weapons concealed... you are essentially pulling up their collective shirts and saying "Hey everyone, look what I found!"

Not to be a technical smartass, but the way Indiana's permit system works and the laws work is that an Indiana License to Carry firearms are required to carry a firearm whether openly or concealed. Once you have an LTC, you can do both. Like Tennessee.
 
My comment:

"I find it interesting that you would post a check sheet that would allow criminals to find the homes least likely to be protected by an armed citizen.
It will certainly make the thugs safer."

This idea is stupid on so many levels. Are the antis so lacking in intellectual acumen that they don't see the side effects of thier actions?
 
I agree with DMK and ClubSoda22. If they publish the names of CCW holders then publish some very private info on the net including home phones of the papers staff. Turn about is fair play!
 
Can anyone think of a better way to spawn a rash of burglaries? Knowing where the guns are apparently attracts more burglars to my neighborhood than it deters. The guy at the end of my block was hit twice in recent years, and all because he was not shy about his memberships and weapons, as evidenced by the decals he peppered his truck and front door with.

Incidentally, burglars tend to avoid homes with "Beware Of Dog" signs more often than they do those with "Never mind the dog. Beware of the OWNER" gun signs; and they almost always avoid homes with professional surveillance alerts posted on windows and lawns.

Allen County Indiana take heed.
 
Voted, with comment.

The decision to be armed is a personal decision. License holders are licensed to carry CONCEALED. If the paper publishes names and locations, license holders might as well carry their weapons in public.
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A friend of mine lives in Raleigh , NC - said that when he applied for or was approved for a permit his name appeared in a local newspaper. Don't remember if it was a purchase permit or a carry permit.

As far as the Ft. Wayne paper - I'll have to post and leave comment as well.
 
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