2003: A Banner Year for California Gun-Rights

[Jim Diver]

I have to say this was not a "Banner" year, but another in a long list of disaster years. NRA was on the wrong side of AB1044. :banghead:

I define a winning year as getting these laws overturned or repealed and gun rights restored.

I second the call of BS. More NRA apologist spin.

NRA needs to "come to jesus" and have a reality check.

 

[JeffS]

"The" defeated bill is AB50 which was the 50bmg ban. However, the defeat did come from the NRA, GOA, FCSA, or other shooting organizations. It came from the liberal gun banning politicians themselves. The problem with the bill was that it amends CA's AWB and opens another AW registration period with a loophole so big, one can fly Arrianna's jet through.

 

[Pendragon]

You guys still in California, you would not believe how cool it is in another state like Texas.

I feel like I moved to a different planet. The gunshows are to die for and the only gunstore I have been to has more guns than every single gun store I ever went to in California in the last 5 years - put together.

Ok, the weather is not as good, but literally EVERYTHING else is better here. Gas and food are way way cheaper. I just looked at a monstrous new house (3400sf) for $181k and it would have been well over double that in my old neighborhood.

People are friendlier, more respectful and helpful to their fellow man and the whole way of living life is just different.

 

[Russ]

Pendragon,

Glad to see you got out. It is cool living in a place where you can get most guns and carry one if you take a simple course.

As for the NRA, I'd like to see what a bad year is if they think 2003 was a banner year.

 

[Frohickey]

This was one of the posts that Mike Haas posted on FreeRepublic.com. I believe that I mentioned it on a previous thread, that the NRA was touting that AB1044 is good for pro-2A folks. I mentioned that its bad for Jim March and others that are trying to prove favoritism and cronyism in CCW issuance.

Now, here, we have Mike Haas spreading the same thing into TheHighRoad.org.

I usually don't get into flaming and badmouthing people, but the NRA (and by inference Mike Haas) is wrong in this. AB1044 is bad. I've seen the same thing happen before, where the NRA tries to do a good spin on a bad gun control law (all of them are bad). And that one was being done by Paul Payne of the NRA at a Silicon Valley NRA Members Council meeting.

No wonder the SVNRAMC decided to call it quits, folded up their tent and moved away from the NRA banner, and decided to do it on their own. They are calling themselves Golden State 2nd Amendment Council. Where is the NRA at for assisting in getting a RKBA provision put into the California Constitution? Where was the NRA when the people fighting the Alameda County ban on gunshows needed help, (Nordyke vs King)? MIA, thats what.

 

[Sven]

We need a dedicated SWAT team (so to speak) here in CA just to deal with the rose-colored-glasses wearing legislature!!!

Sign me up!

-sven, not cancelling my NRA life EP either...

 

[Tempest]

UGH!! This troll back again?

Haas has been all over the internet trying to promote spew and touting the NRA. He's afraid to come back and actually make an argument, and he's been soundly spanked every time he's attempted to litter Free Republic with his pablum. He's anti ANY organization that's not the NRA. He posts and runs. He's a shill. It's one thing to attack and stick around to defend your points. It's quite another to attack and run, leaving everyone else drenched in his urine.

BLAH!

I've got lots of friends in Cali, who basically think this state is unsalvageable for gun owners. Do you folks agree, or do you think there's a chance all the damage done can be reversed? Just curious.

 

[KMKeller]

The question is not whether or not the damage can be reversed, the question is whether the populace is willing to take the measures necessary to reverse it.

My answer is no. The people who are willing to do something are too few.

 

[Frohickey]

I've got lots of friends in Cali, who basically think this state is unsalvageable for gun owners. Do you folks agree, or do you think there's a chance all the damage done can be reversed? Just curious.

Dunno. Maybe. Maybe not. What I do know is that to salvage this state, we can't leave the NRA to do it for us.

 

[Tempest]

Frohickey, I'm firmly of the opinion that we can't EVER leave any organization to do it FOR us. The people have to be willing to take action, and not rely on entities such as the NRA to do it. I think until they do, California and other states like it will be pretty much lost.

 

[twoblink]

SB489..

I read a quote that answered it best:

"Aside from the small problem tonight Mrs. Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?"



I'm with Jim March on this one..