.22 bullet from 1 mile away?

[double bogey]

I think this is just the press being misinformed. I don't think a .22 lr is capable of this kind of damage at the range of one mile. Most likely a .223. I shoot at this range myself, they have a high berm but someone being careless could shoot over it. Looking at the map of his home and the range, it is directly in line with the line of fire. I started using this range because the RO's police it pretty well, and it seems safer, at least on the line. Hope the guy gets better.

http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/Mystery-bullet-injures-man-in-suburban-yard-96293168.html

 

[cambeul41]

Link?

 

[Equestrian]

might want to check your post i cant find the link might just be me though>...

 

[jcwit]

The article states it was a .22 cal., doesn't say anything about .22 lr or rimfire. Might have been a .223 or a .22 hornet or one of many other .22 calibers.

Shoot a mile, more than likely.

 

[Sunray]

A .22 is certainly dangerous out to more than a mile. Still more likely to be a .22 CF though.

 

[Mal H]

We checked; a .22-caliber projectile can travel approximately one mile in a straight line.

That area of Texas must have repealed the old law of gravity!

If it came from the range, they need to examine their backstop height and perhaps add some form of overhead barrier. I hope it's not a "DC Sniper" copy cat starting out.

 

[WardenWolf]

Odd. Keep in mind that even a .223 typically is only considered "effective" out to 600 yards or so. Plus the fact that they said it would have had to have passed through an abandoned church building. I think it was something much closer and perhaps intentional. Perhaps someone thinking they could shoot someone and use the range's proximity as cover.

 

[double bogey]

I found this link, its newer. the guy had a pretty serious wound. No other news lately.

 

[rainbowbob]

The first link works for me. The second link is a no-go.

If the bullet came from that location, it would have had to travel through the City of Garland's dump as well as an abandoned church building before speeding over the Domins' wooden fence.

That seems HIGHLY unlikely.

Police said they don't believe the shooting was intentional.

Based on what, I wonder?

Domin's wife, however, believes the shooter may have taken aim from the ten acres of tree-lined property directly behind their backyard. She said the bullet nicked her husband's pancreas and lodged in his lung.

That much damage from that distance through those obstacles? I think his wife may be on to something.

 

[Shadow 7D]

The story link quotes the wife as believe the bullet came from a wooded area, and not the range, while it's capable, the ballistics require a pretty high arc.

 

[tkopp]

If it was a .22 it could well have traveled past all those obstacles, because it would be coming down at a 45' angle or better by that point. More artillary than anything else.

Without something extraordinary like a ground ricochet getting enough angle to excape between the baffles, it couldn't happen at our range.

 

[rainbowbob]

If it was a .22 it could well have traveled past all those obstacles, because it would be coming down at a 45' angle or better by that point. More artillary than anything else.

You're right of course...but at that point it seems more likely it would have bounced off him rather than penetrate his lung.

 

[o Unforgiven o]

While the article does not mention what .22 caliber round was used, if it was a .22lr I don't think there is any chance it came from the range. A .22lr would have to be at close to mortar angle from that distance and when it got there I'm not sure it could cause that kind of injury, and if this range had any RO's present I don't think they would let somebody shoot a rifle at that kind of angle anyway. I think the wife may be on to something, but I guess there is always a chance the extraordinary happened. Now, if it was a .223 with a one in a million shot over a dump through a building and fired at a relatively steep angle than... This is the unluckiest man in Texas.

-Evan

 

[Zack]

poor guy, but

"You can hear them many nights."

Total bs there. Many nights? Gun ranges close at dark.

 

[Torghn]

poor guy, but Total bs there. Many nights? Gun ranges close at dark.

There are a few ranges around here that are open after dark. They have lights. It's actually easier to hit clays at night, they light up against the dark night sky.

 

[content]

Hello friends and neighbors // If the bullet nicked the persons pancreas and lodged in his lung I doubt it was entering at a 45 degree downward arc.

 

[jcwit]

poor guy, but
Quote:
"You can hear them many nights."

Total bs there. Many nights? Gun ranges close at dark.

Not sure about that, I known of idiots that shot at a public range using their headlights.


Last summer we had a young Amish girl get hit by a .22 cal. bullet. Entry angle guessed that the bullet came from above and the family heard no gunshot. To this day its a mystery who or where the bullet came from. The girl made a full recovery, she was under 5 years old and riding in an open carriage.

 

[351 WINCHESTER]

Years ago my friend was taking a nap in his trailer located in the boonies. He awoke suddenly when he felt a pain in his chest. Turned out to be a 220gr. .30 cal bullet that went thru a stud and then lodged in his chest. It was shot at an angle and much of it's energy was spent, but hat it hit him in the right spot it would have easily killed him.

 

[pikid89]

.22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer???

 

[gym]

I have nothing but old shooters tales, over 50 years ago I was told a 22 lr could travel a mile if fired at an angle. So it wouldn't suprise me, and as mentioned there are a lot of 22 rounds like the 22 swift that some old hunters used, that could probablly kill someone if they were in that one in a million spot leaning in the wrong direction.
"Despite its unfair treatment, those who actually have experience with Winchesters big .220 consider it to be the finest factory loaded cartridge available for shooting varmints at extremely long ranges." "220 Swift with a 50 grain bullet at 4110 fps"
So anything is possible.

 

[JTHunter]

If they had given a description of the bullet (LRN, S/JHP, PSP, FMJ), we would have a better idea if it is a .22 Long Rifle or a different .22 round. Not enough info. The fac that it penetrated,

"the bullet nicked her husband's pancreas and lodged in his lung"

would seem to indicate a centerfire round.
Add to the fact that the pancreas is below the lung, the round would almost have had to angle upward unless the man was leaning forward while on his tractor.

 

[Owen Sparks]

A kid in my town was sitting on a picnic table in a park and slumped over dead. The autopsy found a .22 bullet in his brain and no one knew where it came from.

 

[C-grunt]

Hello friends and neighbors // If the bullet nicked the persons pancreas and lodged in his lung I doubt it was entering at a 45 degree downward arc.

Your on to something here. Even if he was bending over forward the bullet would have to be traveling a fairly flat trajectory to do that.

I bet it came from the woodline. Either intentional or maybe a plinker/hunter in a bad spot with bad backdrop.

 

[22-rimfire]

Things like this put shooting ranges out of business and push them further and further from urban areas.

The article does not state the location of the shooting range and it is entirely possible somebody just shot from another location.

Years ago, I shot at a Garland shooting range. At that time, you could see houses above the berm and always figured that range's days were numbered.

Edit: Watched the video link. (Working from my laptop, I have a lot of trouble actually watching a video due to the connection speed.) Yes, that is the same range I shot at in the 1980's. That place at that time was an accident waiting to happen. Used to shoot there fairly often as I had no other place to shoot and it was only a hop and a skip from where I lived at that time. Used to ride my bike out there as that route was part of my exercise routine. The area used to "way out in the country", but urban sprawl has spilled way way past that geographic location.

 

[Gouranga]

Man, that is horrible. We had 2 folks shot near hear at Carowins (amusement park) in the last 25 years from folks shooting nearby. One a 16 yr old, one a 6 yr old. Folks just need to be careful when shooting. When I go to a new range, the first thing i do is Google earth the site and get an idea what is downrange from it. Ricochet happens and I would not want to be responsible for the accidental death of someone.

We recently found a 22lr round lodged in the front bumper of my grandfathers Chevy (one of those plastic bumpers), made it through the plastic, some styrofoam crud and stopped at the metal back in there. We figured out to within 30 mins of when it happened and using google earth there was really only one spot he could have been with the angle he was hit. Would have been someone shooting in the woods off of a subdivision. Assuming some level of sanity (that the idiot was not doing it deliberately), would have been 1/2 to 3/4 mile shot.