.223 pistol for wild hog?

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There is an area on the Congaree River where a group of friends and I hunt Ferel and wild hogs. Since it is against the law to carry rifles on the river, we generaly use Glock 20's (loaded with Cor-Bon 180gr Bonded SP) and/or 12 gauge shotguns (with 3in mag slugs)
What do you guys think about the Carbon-15 type 97 .223 pistol as a river-legal hog hunting gun? What load would you use (I was thinking about the Winchester 64gr PSP)?
 
You really can't complain about the Glock 20's performance, can you? ;)

Next time load with some Texas-Ammo 200gr XTPs @1250fps or some CorBon 180gr JHP @ 1300fps... :evil:
 
I was under the impression that hogs were very difficult to adequately penetrate. I don't know if I would want a 223 as my only means of defense from one. Maybe if I had a 41 or 44 Magnum as a backup I'd try the 223. ;)
 
No offense to anyone here, but I'd worry about taking a Carbon 15 Pistol into a place that doesn't allow rifles... You know it's a pistol, I know it's a pistol, but are you sure the Game Warden that might check you guys over will know it's not an illegal SBR without the stock? I mean sure, you could get it all straightened out eventually, but it would definitely cramp your day. And is it just rifles, or is it rifle calibers?

I think I'd spend my $$$ a 6" hunting barrel for my Glock, and use those 200grainers from Texas Ammo like tetchaje1 mentioned. Maybe even mount a red-dot scope on it for even more fun :D
 
Unless your hog is a Javalina, no way. Hogs are tough critters. Use enough gun, keep with the 12 ga. with slugs.
 
Boars are foul tempered little beasts, and are physically strong. A .223 , especially from a pistol, is likely going to (irritate) them off, and might get you attacked. Bring enough gun, AT LEAST a 10mm and preferably a hot .41 magnum or better yet .44 magnum revolver. The best of course is just bringing a high powered rifle.
 
Personally, I think a .223 pistol is a great choice for hogs. Just wait until they're real close and then beat them to death with the butt!

I'm going to trade in my .454 and get one of those new twenty-two caliber hog pistols.
 
A frind of mine here in Oregon guides 'private property' pig hunts in Northern California and says that the .223 from a rifles/ARs is quite popular. A .44 mag from a 6" barel is the smallest pistol caliber he will allow. Unless your .223 pistol was a TC with a decent length barrel, best leave it in the safe.

BTW- He lugs a .338 to drop wounded pigs.................. going either way
 
I ran the numbers tonight, and the 10mm with the load I'm using would only have 55 ft/lb's less muzzle energy than the .223 from a pistol barrel. Thanks for the advice
 
In that case...you may label me officialy "not a real man"

My cousin got gored pretty badly 3 weeks ago while guiding a knife hunt for hogs. He is doing ok now, but 2 of his dogs were ripped to shreds in the same attack..even with the kevlar doggie vests.
 
Where hunt hogs, you cannot use a rifle bigger than a 22 cal. Some of the guys use a 233 and have some luck. We use a 12 ga slug and always bring them down. The problem lies in thier thick hide and massive chest. A small caliber has a hard time reaching vital organs. A 12ga goes clean though them and doesn't stop to ask directions.
Remember boars can easily charge you.
 
FWIW, muzzle energy doessn't equate to penetration nor killing powder - depending. Use the right bullet.

Assuming you've a steady rest & can place head/neck shots on a 300+ pound critter (assumption on my part re the size/weight of yer local pigs), .223 can do the trick very well.

Contender, etc, should do the trick.

Too & kinda funny in its own way. CO has all kinds of legalisties regards "no rifles, etc."-stuff. But I can lay a cocked/loaded Contended on my truck's dash (not that I would) ..... it's just legal, not smart. ;)
 
i've killed a truck load of hogs with a 223 contender with 16" barrel. also killed 4 or 5 with 22lr its not so much what you shoot them with as where you shoot em. 187
 
i've killed a truck load of hogs with a 223 contender with 16" barrel. also killed 4 or 5 with 22lr its not so much what you shoot them with as where you shoot em. 187
I heard one guy say: "When I whisper in those hogs' ears with my .22-250 that they're dead, they believe me."
 
Which .223 round have ya'll had good luck with on hogs? I'm about to do my first hunt and will be using a AR15 carbine w/ aimpoint redot and surefire tac light and have a glock 27 .40s&w w/180gr FMJ for backup.
 
Lead me to the meat!!! T/C Contender ... factory 55 grn HP's ... 2740 fps .... 916 ft lbs at muzzle ..... I'll take one o' them hogs with a well placed shot.

Anyways ... my .44 back-up would be good insurance! :evil: :p
 
South Carolina Hogs

Carbon 15,
I've hunted hogs in SC for 30 years, and I would say that .223 would not be my first choice. Yup, I've killed a few with the odd Mini14 and AR, but they did not give very good performance....usally requiring multiple shots unless head shoots were made. From what it sounds like, the type of hunting you are doing, head shoots may not always be possible.

First, I would check again on the game laws. I believe it is illegal to HUNT[ie SHOOT] out of the boat with rifles, but I believe that it is legal to transport your rifles in the boat. Unless you are shooting from the boat, I would take whatever your favorite deer rifle is with you next time.

10mm works pretty well.....I've killed quite a few hogs with it. Its no .44 mag, but its alot easier to carry, and for me, alot easier to shoot. The 180 CORBONS do well, as do heavily loaded 200 grain XTP's[ go to www.doubletapammo.com ] . I will say that in general, .357 mags have NOT done well. If you go that route, pick a HEAVY bullet.

I've had good luck with shotguns and buckshot at fairly close ranges......I'm sure that slug would work fine.

In general, you will place your shots better with the long guns. Deer rifles work well on hogs for that reason. If you hunt them with pistols, get close and place your shots well. I've killed close to 200 wild hogs, and the the only one to every get a tusk in me, including several killed with knives, when I snuck up on a couple of horny 'ol boars fighting over a sow, being kewl and hunting with a pistol. They were really charged up with adrenilen, and although I killed the first one with one .44 mag shot, when I walked over to the the dead one, the other[that had retreated into the thicket] decided he wanted more, and charged the dead pig. I started shooting him, and though I had 3 .44's[not good center hits though!] in him, he decide he wanted a little of me too! He got one good gash in my leg, and I got another .44 in his head as he passed by! 1 dead hog, 1 bloody leg, and 1 embarrased macho pistol hunter:rolleyes:

Most "wild boars" are really 150 lbs young hogs. They are not very hard to kill, and certainly not "dangerous"[though they do eat well!]. Its a very rare thing, these days in the Southeast, to find a good, large old boar[over 300 lbs]. It simply takes to many years for them to get that big. When you do find one, they are not "super pigs " or invincible. But they do "take some killin' " to put down. Just make sure you are throwig a bullet with sufficent weight to offer good penetration[which the .223 doesn't], and place your shots well.

Have fun on the Congaree........I once sank a boat with dead pigs trying to get out of the swamp down on the Waccamaw near Georgetown:uhoh:
 
.223 from a pistol is nothing like .223 from a rifle. Sort of light-and-fast, but without the "fast." That muzzle blast is all the speed you AREN'T getting because the barrel is 1/2 as long as it should be.

I'd use a 10mm myself, mainly because I've got one already. :D
 
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