.223 vs. .22-250

[rhino1957]

.223 vs. .22-250 I would like to see what you guys think about this. Im only trying to prove my point that the .22-250 in fact better that the .223 according to hornady. nothing more. i would also like to say that the .223 is a very good round i would like to see if i missed anything PLEASE tell me ill let you decide. This is NOT out of spite! http://www.hornady.com/assets/files/ballistics/ballistics_charts.pdf
Please look at link

 

[Abel]

I like the 223 better. Its plenty big enough to kill coyote out to 300 yards, and that's about as far as I can shoot with much accuracy. If my skill level allowed me to go out to 400-500 yards, a 22-250 would be a bit more useful to me.

 

[Geno]

Here we go again. Sunday evenin' Rhino's outta school, gots his homework dune did, and momma's lettin' the boy toy aroun' on the komputer.

Am I errant in believing a troll?

I hope so.

Geno

 

[daorhgih]

A sincere desire ....

... but grammatically challenged. We all started from somewhere near there.
--Oh, except some of us, of course.

 

[X-Rap]

Who the hell cares, yea the 22-250 has a higher MV so that makes the other factors higher as well given the same bullet from a 223.
The 223 is ballistically superior to the 22 hornet, does that mean we should shred them all.
Go by 1000 rounds of each and reload them 10 times and come talk to us again.
Shoot each of those rounds at fur and come talk to us again.
Being right goes a little deeper than pulling up some statistical formula, a 4 Lb hammer will drive a finish nail but not as well as a 12oz. one will.

 

[jerkface11]

If faster = better then why stop at .22-250?

 

[R.W.Dale]

Good point jerkface! Perhaps we should rock the OP's world is flat mentality by telling him about the .224TTH



22-250 costs more to shoot

22-250 doesn't come factory chambered in fast twists

22-250 wears bbls out faster

22-250 doesn't work in an AR15

22/250 doesn't work in a "mini Mauser" action

Do these things make 22-250 a worse cartridge...NO... they merely make it another choice out of many. RHINO there's much more to it than pure trajectory just cause a cartridge shoots flatter does not neccacarily make it the better choice for all uses. What is it about your shooting experience that prevents you from grasping this?

 

[BrocLuno]

I like the 22-250 and I own a custom one

I do not have a 223. I saw plenty of those when I was in.

Which is better is all up to the shooter.

 

[husker]

Geno

 

[Kachok]

There is a huge difference between being a flater trjectory and being a better caliber. My 6.5x55 does not hold messure up to my WSM for trajectory, but I think the 6.5x55 is a much better caliber all around. Why would think that my anchent 119 year old caliber is better then my super new high tech WSM? Because it will cleanly kill anything I put my crosshairs on within any realistic range, it is easier on barrels, it is much easier to develop handloads for, it has half the recoil, it makes half the noise, it costs half as much to shoot, it works well in shorter more handi barrels, and it works remarkably well with a huge varity of bullet weights. What advantage does my WSM have? I get to aim 3" lower at 300 yards. Is there any doubt why my 6.5x55 is my fav? Well same kind of comparison between the 223 and 22-250.

 

[wrs840]

Most all the really accomplished varmint-slayers around here handload and use a 22-250.

I don't handload, and I'm not a "really accomplished varmint-slayer", so I use a .223. Pretty simple equation.

Les

 

[Gordon]

Little sumptin to spice up the dismal vibes:
Bottom to top; Remington rolling block #4 in .22LR and it's accurate too!
Browning B-78 in .22-250 with 6x24 Baush & Lomb ( wuz equal to a 6500 Bushnell in the 80s)
1950s Martini K Hornet with 12x Lyman Supertargetspot
1970s Martini .17 Remington with 15x Lyman Benchrest
25-06 Ackley Improved with 1-8 twist octagonal Shilen barreled Ruger #1 when it had a Redfield Accurange (since replaced with a 4.5-15x Leupold)

 

[unwise11]

this rhino guy bugs me by giving younger shooters this "know it all troll" guy look.
Yes. .22-250 is a better performing round than the .223 but I would rather have a .223 because it's cheaper and more common at walmart.
Not to mention I shoot the .223 round a good bit in AR-15 form.
So yes rhino.. it's better.
Next time you can point out how the .300WSM is better than the .308 and 30-06.
Stop acting like you know everything and ASK questions don't go around shooting your mouth off because If you are a 13 year old like I assume someone will tell it to your face in a gun store.
I'm 14, But I'm respected because of my actions and maturity.
You need to sit back and read and then ASK questions, not give answers that nobody wants.

 

[coug]

saying most all accomplished varmet hunters all shoot 22-250s just isn't true. most accomplished varmet hunters shoot a variety of small calibers, dependent upon where and what they are after. I own and load for both the .223 and the 22-250 and I can tell you most of us that actually shoot dogs, foxs and cats if only given one it would be the .223 just because the 22-250 is flatter dosent mean its more accurite. I would also prefer the .223 for prarrie dogs. but I like my 22-250 very much.

 

[ole farmerbuck]

When i go p-doggin it, i usually take 2 or 3 .223's and 1 or 2 22'250's. I try to shoot all of them some. It really doesnt make any difference which one since i have pretty good loads worked up for each. But i can tell the 250 is a lot faster after shooting a 223 for a while first. Like em both though.

 

[ole farmerbuck]

coug, i think wrs meant where he's from.

 

[K-Rod]

Is the 22-250 better? Maybe. I say who cares really? I get 50-100 more yrds out of my 22-250 over my .223. That's really the only advantage. I read a thread on here before about the 17HMR. I love the .17 myself but one member on the thread said he wouldn't buy a 17HMR unless there's a specific reason/use for the round.

Bottom line there isn't a reason for anything over a .22lr that I can see? A .22lr will drop anything at 50yrds with the right shot placement. Does that mean I shouldnt buy anything other than a .22lr? That's like asking Jay Leno why he buys so many cars. Everyone in this sport has their preferred caliber. Everyone here has opinions. When someone tells me my 22-250 is better than my .223 or my .300 is better than my .270 etc because the charts & data say so, I just say "maybe but I like them all just the same because this is my hobby, this is my sport."

 

[rhino1957]

Is the 22-250 better? Maybe. I say who cares really? I get 50-100 more yrds out of my 22-250 over my .223. That's really the only advantage. I read a thread on here before about the 17HMR. I love the .17 myself but one member on the thread said he wouldn't buy a 17HMR unless there's a specific reason/use for the round.

Bottom line there isn't a reason for anything over a .22lr that I can see? A .22lr will drop anything at 50yrds with the right shot placement. Does that mean I shouldnt buy anything other than a .22lr? That's like asking Jay Leno why he buys so many cars. Everyone in this sport has their preferred caliber. Everyone here has opinions. When someone tells me my 22-250 is better than my .223 or my .300 is better than my .270 etc because the charts & data say so, I just say "maybe but I like them all just the same because this is my hobby, this is my sport."

well said.

 

[coug]

yea!!! all guns are awsome. but I still like mine better. but only because they are mine. I want a a ton of rifles I don't have or need but for some strange mental illness I still want them.

 

[rhino1957]

I want to thank all of you (even the tolls) for your input I have a new respect for the 233
and thank you for sticking with me through this. Hard to do I know!
oh and this is for you JDMorris

a quote from an unknow psychiatrist
"When a person say that they are mature to other people what they are really doing is trying to convince themselves of that fact" end of quote.

 

[husker]

LOL Romper Room on the THR

 

[tactikel]

Son, you need to slow down, take a deep breath, and PROOF read your posts. Is is hard to take seriously a poster with poor spelling, bad grammar, and a minimal grasp of the subject. Shoot 1000 rounds of .223, make notes on your experiences and get back to us (you do own a firearm don't you?).

BTW I own both. There is overlap and both will perform well for a good rifleman. My personal favorite is the .22-250. For really long range varmints get a .243/6mm or a .25-06.

 

[Harley Quinn]

Rhino 1957,
For you I think the 223 is the one...

If just starting out it has a lot of reasons to go that way, as Abel and others have pointed out...

Most all the really accomplished varmint-slayers around here handload and use a 22-250.

I don't handload, and I'm not a "really accomplished varmint-slayer", so I use a .223. Pretty simple equation.

Les

 

[Sam1911]

Lot of good advice, and a lot of heat, too. Rhino, perhaps it would be a good idea to let the caliber war questions rest for a while. The folks here have given you the best answers possible to your questions. There is no single definative answer. Go shoot -- many, many rounds -- and you'll discover your own preferences.