223 wylde is it more accurate than 5.56

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I'm getting ready to start buying parts to build my first ar. I want something to shoot both 223 and 5.56 so I was going to buy a 5.56 but came across the 223 wylde. With the tighter throat is suppose to be better on moa. I need info on it please. Thanks
 
I can't answer the question about all chamber designs, but I can say my Wylde chambered 18" RRA upper is the most accurate I have ever owned. Part of it could be the chamber, part could be the cryo'd barrel treatment, whatever it is certainly works though.
 
Don't know but I have owned six or eight 556 chambered ARs, three 556 chambered Minis, and at least seven Wylde chambered ARs.

I do believe it is true to say that every Wylde chambered gun DECISIVELY out shot every 556 chambered gun. That said the Wyldes were all RRA HBARs (or Varmits) and none of the 556 barrels were.
 
Just curious, if 223 Wylde gives you the versatility of a 5.56 chamber and the accuracy of a .223. Essentially the best of both worlds. Why hasn't it become the standard AR chambering? Like when the military improves the design from A1 to A2 to A4, why wasn't the .223 Wylde part of the improvement package?
 
why wasn't the .223 Wylde part of the improvement package?
Because it's tighter than a 5.56 chamber and not desirable in a combat firearm where reliability is a greater concern than a marginal increase in accuracy. I wouldn't run Mk262 through a Wylde chamber either because that ammo is already pushing the pressure limits in a 5.56 chamber.

The Wylde vs. 5.56 NATO chamber comes down to whether you want a match rifle or a fighting rifle.
 
Just my 2 cents worth, but I consider the question akin to asking," left handed surgeons are better than right handed surgeons." In that platform.
General rule of thumb, better chamber to brass fit, better accuracy.....had my 6ppc die cut with my chamber reamer - very nice.
 
Wylde is better if you are shooting .223 match loads. If you are shooting bulk 5.56mm, you aren't going to notice any accuracy improvements. I have not had any blown primers or any other issues using the Wylde chamber with 5.56mm.

This is the best my RRA 20" Wylde bull-barrel 1:8 upper would do from the bench with 77gr Fed. GM match ammo:

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And it would shoot the match stuff under 1" for 5-shots at 100 with such regularity that it was almost boring. The bulk 5.56mm would shoot around 1.2-1.5" groups.
 
The Wylde has a shorter leade than 5.56 chambers, and theoretically will be more accurate. Is that always true, I don't know.

I only shoot .223 handloads, so the 5.56 ammo concerns do not affect my decisions. I rebarreled my 24" RRA Varmint A4 with a Kreiger .223 chamber which has a very short leade. Honestly, I think the RRA Wylde shot better when it was new. I would have replaced it with another RRA but they couldn't guarantee they'd ever have a spare to sell to me. At the time they put them all into new rifles.

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its always been my impression that the wylde is basically a .223 chamber with some concessions made so you can safely cycle and chamber 5.56mm ammunition and thats all.. .223 accuracy with an added margin of safety on higher pressure 5.56mm loads which makes it a great replacement.. maybe even a superior replacement to the .223 chambering for most shooters, however, doesnt replace what the 5.56 chamber was designed for and why it was designed
 
I have one AR (an RRA) that has a 20" free-floated barrel and a Wylde chamber. With my hand loads, it is the most accurate rifle I have... and I have some dedicated heavy barrel varmint rifles in .243 and .22-250, as well as others. I was really quite surprised after dialing in a new scope and really trying to shoot for groups. Easily under 1 MOA and the thing is... it's easy. There's very little recoil and with a nice trigger it almost does it for you.

The Wylde chambered rifle that I have is markedly better than the other ARs I have, although to be fair, the other rifles have shorter barrels and are not free-floated. Close behind the Wylde chambered AR in my little collection (before I lost it all while boating), is a mere S&W Sport with the original 1:8, 5R barrel. I've found this rifle to shoot better groups that other "well known" brands. Just my observations. I have no complaints about the Wylde chamber.
 
I had a M&P sport with the r5 1-8 barrel and found it to be a far better barrel than most other short barrel m4 type rifles.

The rifle I am building now I wanted a 223 wylde chamber and ended up picking up a criterion barrel with that chamber and a polished chrome bore in a sort of mid weight profile called a hybrid. I was sold on a rra 24" varmint but wanted a lighter rifle that was still easy to hump around. Ran into a guy banging out tinny 100 yards groups at the range with a home built and when asked about his rifle and the criterion 20" hybrid was on his. It was a solid 1/2" rifle shooter with black hills 5.56 copy of the MK262 ammo along with some federal 223 77 gr match kings ammo. My rifle should be done this after noon .
 
I think barrel make is more important than the different chamberings.

My M16 DMR had a 5.56 chamber and that thing was VERY accurate. The SPR has a 5.56 chamber and they are known for pretty good accuracy.

If all out accuracy is what you are after I would skip the Wylde and just go to a match 223 chamber.
 
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