ColtPythonElite
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I don't care for the looks of a Marlin, but will admit that the average one seems to shoot better than the average 10/22.
If accuracy is what you wanted aren't there some companies that sell 10/22's already built to achieve really good accuracy? I know they're not cheap but they're probably less expensive than some of the 10/22's some people put together. As far as getting the exact gun a person wants that's up to them. I spoke only of my preference when I said I didn't understand it. And the way I understand things a person can essentially buy aftermarket parts and build their own Ruger like weapon without buying the Ruger first. That way you don't end up throwing parts away. You just start from scratch and build your own.
Savage makes incredible rifles IMO
the 60SS I have will shoot quite well. Here is a group I shot at 90 yards with that rifle. The bull is 9/16" and the group measures .39
Yes those are tech sights and I love them. I've not had any problems with installing them. I also have a set on one of my 10/22s. I love both the 10/22 and 795. Why argue which is better, get both!
The typical below group was shot with my 795 w/tech sights off of sandbags at 25 yards and CCI Blazer Ammo. I am not big on spending money on cheap rifles but the Tech Sights make the 795 (and 10/22) a great little rifle.
I shot ten 10 shot groups similar to this one on those 1" square target and was giggling like a little school girl when I got done.
If that's the way you look at it you won't get very far. Tech Sights are a great value, an excellent quality peep sight set for the price. Forget about how much they cost in relation to the rifle. For several years my $100 Remington 597 wore a $400 Leupold 1.5-5x.Because I'm still a bit weary of the price, which let's face it is more then half of what the gun actually costs.
Can't argue with that and never understood why so many seem to hate tubular magazines.It is very much easier for me to load a tube mag. You just drop the rounds down the tube and replace the inner rod. Simple and easy.
I dislike loading the factory Ruger rotary magazine.
Tube magazines are imminently easier to top off than box magazines. IMHO, they are far better in the field. Yes, a box magazine can be replaced quicker than a tube can be refilled but they don't load themselves either.Me either. It's true they only hold 15-18 rounds in a Marlin (LR's) but you can carry ammo in your pockets and reload them in a hurry. The 795 takes box mags, which I think are easier than the round Ruger mags BTW, so you can swap them out quickly and have a lot of ammo ready to rock but I don't see a lot of situations where I need 20, 30 or 50 rounds of .22 ammo.
As I said, most people slam Marlins for not having add ons. Most of the time they are just parroting what everyone else says instead of actually looking for themselves.
Contrary to what I may think after owning one for 27yrs and killing truckloads of critters with it???And contrary to what CraigC may think...
It's not a slam. It's a fact. It's up to the individual to decide whether or not it's a dealbreaker.As I said, most people slam Marlins for not having add ons.
You won't find any. Because they are not easy to replace. The huge aftermarket exists for the 10/22 because it is highly modifiable. Like many other Ruger designs. Not because it "needs" it.Sure you won't find a lot of aftermarket barrels for the Marlin. But the reason is simple. They don't need them.
Then, like so many shooters, they probably used a cheap barrel just because they look cool. Then people like you delude yourselves into thinking that all heavy barrelled 10/22's are created equal. Sorry sir but a Ruger with a "good" barrel will shoot circles around a $100 Marlin. If they didn't, we wouldn't be building them.Both the 60 and 795 I've used were as accurate as the bull barreled 10/22 the other guys with us were shooting.
None of the aftermarket magazines for the Marlin or Remington are as good as those from TI or Ruger for the 10/22. Period.Ok, so you can't get a 50 round mag for a 795, but you CAN get a 25 round magazine
Sorry sir but a Ruger with a "good" barrel will shoot circles around a $100 Marlin. If they didn't, we wouldn't be building them.
And I have seen some Rugers that came very close to matching the quality of Marlin's stock rifles.
No Craig, I am not "deluding myself". These were bull barreled 10/22's used by appleseed instructors that used them in competition. You missed the point here too. The point is that you often need a better barrel to get a ruger to shoot as good as a Marlin. (Not always, I've seen a couple of factory rugers that are decent shooters, but they are much rarer than Marlins with the same accuracy.)Contrary to what I may think after owning one for 27yrs and killing truckloads of critters with it???
It's not a slam. It's a fact. It's up to the individual to decide whether or not it's a dealbreaker.
You won't find any. Because they are not easy to replace. The huge aftermarket exists for the 10/22 because it is highly modifiable. Like many other Ruger designs. Not because it "needs" it.
Then, like so many shooters, they probably used a cheap barrel just because they look cool. Then people like you delude yourselves into thinking that all heavy barrelled 10/22's are created equal. Sorry sir but a Ruger with a "good" barrel will shoot circles around a $100 Marlin. If they didn't, we wouldn't be building them.
None of the aftermarket magazines for the Marlin or Remington are as good as those from TI or Ruger for the 10/22. Period.
I never ignore this question and concede on the out of the box accuracy EVERY SINGLE TIME. However, how many shooters do you really think settle down and bench test their plinkers??? Not many. Fact is, even the box stock Ruger is accurate enough for most shooters who own them. So not only is accuracy not everything, to many, the difference is irrelevant.Most 10/22 fans bragging on what they can get ignore the real question- whats the better bang for the buck for an individual not willing to spend money to make a rifle as accurate as another make that is damn good right out of the box?
No, you missed my point. My point is that many folks like yourself think heavy barrelled Rugers get hundreds of dollars dumped into them to be "just as good" as a Marlin. No doubt this perception is due to exposure to 10/22's with cheap barrels. Lots of shooters think that any heavy barrel will be a tackdriver but many low end barrels don't shoot any better than the factory barrel. You Marlin guys shoot alongside a Ruger shooter with a $79.99 fire sale barrel and think they all shoot like that. They don't.These were bull barreled 10/22's used by appleseed instructors that used them in competition. You missed the point here too. The point is that you often need a better barrel to get a ruger to shoot as good as a Marlin.
That speaks for itself.I don't use rests when target shooting as I can't use them hunting.
Are you thinking of the old Marlin design? Because Marlin's hold the bolt open automatically after the last shot is fired. Maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying.