http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/29/27-rifles-stolen-from-california-military-base/
Why is our military storing AK-74's and Dragunovs?
Why is our military storing AK-74's and Dragunovs?
27 rifles stolen from California military base
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EmGeeGeorge
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opposing forces training.... wps familiarity for deploying soldiers... spec warfare training... etc.
50caliber123
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a continuation of 'fast & furious' guns and fallout from the atf earlier this year?
jcollins1007
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Yeah, those should be sold to the public.
Oathkeeper1775
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Inside job
They will find them, as soon as they go through the access list.
We had some .45Cal "Grease-Guns" stolen, they locked everyone associated down for months and months; in jail basically.
1989 or so.
The weapons turned up the following summer when they drained a community swimming pool to clean it. The thieves confessed, convicted, jailed and discharged under other than honorable conditions.
The army ain't the ATF.
They will find them, as soon as they go through the access list.
We had some .45Cal "Grease-Guns" stolen, they locked everyone associated down for months and months; in jail basically.
1989 or so.
The weapons turned up the following summer when they drained a community swimming pool to clean it. The thieves confessed, convicted, jailed and discharged under other than honorable conditions.
The army ain't the ATF.
lemaymiami
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If you just have to have military weapons... where else would you steal them?
At least the military will deal with them properly if it's military personnel involved. This sort of stuff happens occasionally - I can remember back in the Stone Age (1960's) when various radical outfits raided one Armory or other for weapons. That sort of stuff needs to be dealt with very harshly. Hope they're caught and the weapons recovered.
At least the military will deal with them properly if it's military personnel involved. This sort of stuff happens occasionally - I can remember back in the Stone Age (1960's) when various radical outfits raided one Armory or other for weapons. That sort of stuff needs to be dealt with very harshly. Hope they're caught and the weapons recovered.
I must have missed the part about the description of the weapons. All I heard was M-16s and a sniper rifle while they were showing file clips of them on a display wall however, they didn't mention the installation they were stolen from. I could not hang around for the whole story and haven't heard anything since. My immediate thought was an air base and being an ex sky cop I thought "inside job" with the armorer.
M2
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No one "walked out with an armful of weapons," they broke into the facility and stole them. There was better security than most gun stores, but anything can be defeated given the right tactics and equipment.
I suspect the culprit either worked at the facility previously or had extensive knowledge of the building based on what I've read.
Serial numbers have been released to law enforcement agencies across the country.
I suspect the culprit either worked at the facility previously or had extensive knowledge of the building based on what I've read.
Serial numbers have been released to law enforcement agencies across the country.
Mike1234567
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I agree with Oathkeeper1775 and M2. Probably more than one person working at or assigned to the base stole these.
In 1971 I was stationed at Ft McClellan Al, assignment was the post arms room. I signed in the Company on Wed, went to Arms Room on Thur, was off Friday. Monday morning was weekly inventory. Civilian owned .32 MAB missing. The next three days were very unpleasant. Even though I had not even been in the Arms Room vault I was considered suspect. CID got its act together, the dude who I replaced had left on the Tuesday before I got there. He had worked there two years and ETS'd from the Army. They went somewhere in Ohio, found him, he denied it, so that was the end of it.
Many years later, then I was SFC Tng NCO and we're going out for a twelve day exercise. The Supply Sgt & I load up the Supply & Arms room, head out to FTX area, set up shop. Later that day he calls me, 1911A1 missing. We look, can't find it. had ten enlisted helping in the move, so either it was missing before (no way) got lost (no way) or somebody took it in transit. Rest of the Company shows up, I inform 1SG & CO, process of investigation starts. CO said he wouldn't report it for a couple of days. We tighten up the place. No gun. ISG called formation. Announced all we wanted was the gun. No questions asked. At about two in the morning CQ woke me up, he stepped outside for a cigarette and stepped on something on the back steps. It was that damn pistol.
Many years later, then I was SFC Tng NCO and we're going out for a twelve day exercise. The Supply Sgt & I load up the Supply & Arms room, head out to FTX area, set up shop. Later that day he calls me, 1911A1 missing. We look, can't find it. had ten enlisted helping in the move, so either it was missing before (no way) got lost (no way) or somebody took it in transit. Rest of the Company shows up, I inform 1SG & CO, process of investigation starts. CO said he wouldn't report it for a couple of days. We tighten up the place. No gun. ISG called formation. Announced all we wanted was the gun. No questions asked. At about two in the morning CQ woke me up, he stepped outside for a cigarette and stepped on something on the back steps. It was that damn pistol.
well i didnt mean that they simply walked out the front door and tipped their hat to the door man on the way out with arm fulls of weapons....
....of course someone broke in.
but dont these places have armed security.......fences.....cameras......ect....?
ide honestly hope theyve got something more than a half asleep desk guy armed with only a flashlight.
Mike1234567
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Z-z-z-z-z..... z-z-z-z-z-z..... z-z-z-z-z.....
Shadow 7D
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Um, breaking in....
is VERY DIFFICULT
Walking out, with your arms full of weapons, in a crowded and confused and congested weapons issue...
is VERY EASY...
but hey, obviously you have never been near the military so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
is VERY DIFFICULT
Walking out, with your arms full of weapons, in a crowded and confused and congested weapons issue...
is VERY EASY...
but hey, obviously you have never been near the military so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Hayfield123
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It is a good bet it was done by people that work there . . . it usually is. They have access and can cover their tracks with paperwork, at least temporarily.
It is a lot harder for strangers to get in and out, undetected.
It is a lot harder for strangers to get in and out, undetected.
rfwobbly
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That's silly. Everyone knows you can drive down into Mexico and buy them from the ATF!
Mike1234567
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^^^ No need for that long trip. They've started raffling them off... but only to felons. Mere law abiding citizens don't qualify.
rfwobbly
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Well either way, no Spanish language lessons are required.
Shadow 7D
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Fast and Furious, sounds like a greasy spoon, I wonder if they deliver or is just take out service
Sav .250
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This is not the first time weapons have gone missing from a military base.
With all the checks and balances, you`d think that would be next to impossible.
With all the checks and balances, you`d think that would be next to impossible.
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