I have a rem 700 in 270 win. I have killed plenty of deer with it. It has performed flawlessly, but I am debating on purchasing another rifle and I am thinking it shoud be a 30-06. I like the idea of the larger frontal area and balistics that are very close to the 270. Is it worth adding a gun to the safe that is so close to the 270 or am I just looking for an excuse to buy another gun?
30-06 or 270
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bang_bang
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Why not?
I say get it, and slightly tweek your set-up to have a little bit different performance than the .270, as in maybe more for longer range shooting. Camo it out, do something unique and 100% custom to it, or even use it as a beater rifle.
Everyone needs to treat themselves to a gift now and then...right?
MNgunhead,
Get the cartridge that you want. Whats more important is the rifle. You could get a better design for hunting than the Rem.
The Rem. 700's don't have a three position safety that locks the bolt, allows the rifle to be unloaded on safe and locks the firing pin. Rifles like the Ruger 77, M70 and Kimbers do!
The Rem. has that flimsy cheap extractor, only a push ejector and no crf. Get a better gun.
Get the cartridge that you want. Whats more important is the rifle. You could get a better design for hunting than the Rem.
The Rem. 700's don't have a three position safety that locks the bolt, allows the rifle to be unloaded on safe and locks the firing pin. Rifles like the Ruger 77, M70 and Kimbers do!
The Rem. has that flimsy cheap extractor, only a push ejector and no crf. Get a better gun.
oldFred
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It will kick harder (30.06) and probably cost more. Why don't you try a .308?
My problem is that every .308 in semi-auto form is outrageously overpriced in my book. I really would like to have a M1A, but for the price of a nice one I could easily have a Romak PSL in 7.62x54r... At least I have a ton of ammo to shoot in it!
My problem is that every .308 in semi-auto form is outrageously overpriced in my book. I really would like to have a M1A, but for the price of a nice one I could easily have a Romak PSL in 7.62x54r... At least I have a ton of ammo to shoot in it!
Encoreman
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The great caliber debate continues. You asked so I would go with the 30-06, it has endless bullet weights available and can dispatch any critter in North America. Buy it, sell the .270 and buy a .223 or something to play with. Most of all buy it cause at the moment you still can, now the purchasing of ammo or components may be much more of a challenge. My 2nd choice not far behind the '06 is .308 the choice of most snipers. Have a Happy Easter!
irishsquid
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Speaking as someone with six 12 gauge shotguns sitting in the safe behind me...
Why would you need an excuse to buy another gun?
Heck, I'd turn that argument around 180 degrees. "Of course I need a new gun! This one's a .270! I still need a .30-06!"
Arkansas Paul
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The fact that you don't have one is plenty reason to buy it. I have a .280 Rem and a .30-06, and am considering a 7mm-08 just for fun. It won't do a single thing the other two won't do, but I don't have one. lol
The added benefit that the .30-06 carries over the .270 Win is really with the heavy projectiles, for example 200 and 220 grains. In those projectiles, penetration will be impressive per the sectional density. Trajectory won't be very good. However, the 160 grain projectile in the .270 Win is no slouch for penetration. Hmmm. Sounds like they are pretty close all around. If you can afford the new rifle, and the bills are paid, and you just plain want the thing, go for it.
Geno
If you can afford the new rifle, and the bills are paid, and you just plain want the thing, go for it.Geno
I'm a 30-06 guy. Have never owned a 270 but truthfully there is not enough difference on game to matter. A 270, 30-06, 308, or any of about a dozen similar rounds are so close as to not matter one bit.
With the newer modern loadings and bullets you can get a 30-06 to shoot just as flat as a 270 and the 270 will kill the larger animals just as dead as the 30-06. If you want a new rifle go up to at least .338 or down to at least .243 to have something different.
Or look at a levergun just to be a little different.
With the newer modern loadings and bullets you can get a 30-06 to shoot just as flat as a 270 and the 270 will kill the larger animals just as dead as the 30-06. If you want a new rifle go up to at least .338 or down to at least .243 to have something different.
Or look at a levergun just to be a little different.
Art Eatman
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Ehhh, sounds like you have the 'nother-gun itch. For all that I dearly love the '06, it's not all that much more than a .270, really. More handloading games, sure, but if deer hunting is the main deal there's not any particular advantage to an '06.
What else do you hunt? Coyotes? Prairie dogs? A .223 or a .243 is great for them. The .243 is great for antelope and smaller deer.
An '06 is a hoot for a handloader. An 00 pellet, lightly charged, for squirrels. 80- or 110-grain for varmints. 150 or maybe 165 for deer. 180-grain is the choice for a lot of elk hunters. And you can always play with the long heavies if you want.
IMO, an '06 isn't worth bothering with for barrels shorter than 24", and my own preference is 26". My 2¢ worth.
For all that I dearly love the '06, it's not all that much more than a .270, really. More handloading games, sure, but if deer hunting is the main deal there's not any particular advantage to an '06.What else do you hunt? Coyotes? Prairie dogs? A .223 or a .243 is great for them. The .243 is great for antelope and smaller deer.
An '06 is a hoot for a handloader. An 00 pellet, lightly charged, for squirrels. 80- or 110-grain for varmints. 150 or maybe 165 for deer. 180-grain is the choice for a lot of elk hunters. And you can always play with the long heavies if you want.
IMO, an '06 isn't worth bothering with for barrels shorter than 24", and my own preference is 26". My 2¢ worth.
Sunray
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"...just looking for an excuse to buy another gun?..." 'I want one' is a reason, not an excuse. Personally, I wouldn't buy the same rifle in another chambering. Certainly not a commercial hunting rifle. One is pretty much the same as another no matter what cartridge. Milsurp battle rifles aren't. Each one has it's own characteristics. It's about the rifle, not the cartridge.
If you're bored with shooting commercial hunting rifles, buying a milsurp will fix that. Look into a CMP M1 rifle. No other rifle I've ever shot is quite like an M1.
Jump the hoops and shoot the matches even if you don't have to. You'll meet some of the best people you'll ever meet too. And you'll still have a .30-06 rifle you can hunt with.
http://www.thecmp.org/
"...Why don't you try a .308?..." Same as a .30-06, ballistically.
If you're bored with shooting commercial hunting rifles, buying a milsurp will fix that. Look into a CMP M1 rifle. No other rifle I've ever shot is quite like an M1.
Jump the hoops and shoot the matches even if you don't have to. You'll meet some of the best people you'll ever meet too. And you'll still have a .30-06 rifle you can hunt with.
http://www.thecmp.org/
"...Why don't you try a .308?..." Same as a .30-06, ballistically.
jaysouth
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Which is better, blonds or brunettes? Fords or Chevy? If you know the definitive answer to either, you will clearly know whether a .270 trumps a .30-06 or vice versa.
Personally, I like to do my own testing so as to form an absolutely objective answer.
I am in the 40th year of testing and will soon arrive at the proper conclusion of .270 v. .30-06.
Stay tuned.
If you need a legitimate reason to buy another gun, you might want to set up a test for yourself.
Good luck and get back to us.
Personally, I like to do my own testing so as to form an absolutely objective answer.
I am in the 40th year of testing and will soon arrive at the proper conclusion of .270 v. .30-06.
Stay tuned.
If you need a legitimate reason to buy another gun, you might want to set up a test for yourself.
Good luck and get back to us.
BENELLIMONTE
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MNgunhead,
Take it from me that there is minimal difference between the 270 Win shooting 140 grain Nosler Partitions vs the '06shooting 165 grainers.Both rifles will suffice for most anything you can hunt in N.A. If you ever get the chance to hunt really BIG bull elk or go after Alaskan animals or African plains game you might consider the 300Weatherby, 338 Win Mag or the 375 Ruger Compact Magnum. As far as manufacturers I personally believe the Tikka T3 Hunter is the most accurate/ best value rifle on the market. But I also feel that most of the other makers put out a decent product also.
Hope this info helps.
"MONTE"
Take it from me that there is minimal difference between the 270 Win shooting 140 grain Nosler Partitions vs the '06shooting 165 grainers.Both rifles will suffice for most anything you can hunt in N.A. If you ever get the chance to hunt really BIG bull elk or go after Alaskan animals or African plains game you might consider the 300Weatherby, 338 Win Mag or the 375 Ruger Compact Magnum. As far as manufacturers I personally believe the Tikka T3 Hunter is the most accurate/ best value rifle on the market. But I also feel that most of the other makers put out a decent product also.
Hope this info helps.
"MONTE"
sarduy
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just go and get the 30-06
cliffy
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A .270 recoils slightly sharper than a .30-06 Springfield
Other than that, they are extremely similar in killing power. I feel no need for either. If I can't drop my quarry with a .243 Winchester heavy load, I'm in over my head "gamewise" that could easily kill me no matter what caliber I shoulder. Although a 375 H&H Magnum would put me into another ballgame, which I don't wish to enter. Cliffy
Other than that, they are extremely similar in killing power. I feel no need for either. If I can't drop my quarry with a .243 Winchester heavy load, I'm in over my head "gamewise" that could easily kill me no matter what caliber I shoulder. Although a 375 H&H Magnum would put me into another ballgame, which I don't wish to enter. Cliffy
Hutch
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I don't know if this figures in your evaluation, but you can buy milsurp .30-'06 ammo from www.odcmp.com more cheaply than any other centerfire rifle ammo I know of. (relatively) Cheap plinking...
rskent
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Just get it
Everyone needs a 30-06. That is reason enough.
Steve
Everyone needs a 30-06. That is reason enough.
Steve
AllAmerican
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Duuuuuude,
Buy the 30-06! Then after that a .308 and a .243 and after that.... well you get the point.
One does not need an excuse to buy as many guns as they want. Right now I have the same Remington .270 you have and its a great gun IMO. My next one will either be a .243 or .30-06 as I have neither. You cannot have enough guns. Heck, buy them as the deals come up.
Thats what Im doing. Im on a .22 kick right now though.
Gonna pick that Ruger 10/22 up today.
Buy the 30-06! Then after that a .308 and a .243 and after that.... well you get the point.
One does not need an excuse to buy as many guns as they want. Right now I have the same Remington .270 you have and its a great gun IMO. My next one will either be a .243 or .30-06 as I have neither. You cannot have enough guns. Heck, buy them as the deals come up.
Thats what Im doing. Im on a .22 kick right now though.
Gonna pick that Ruger 10/22 up today.
There can be a good reason to get both.
What I probably wouldn't do is buy both and shoot 150 grain bullets through both.
Work up a good, high-velocity, flat shooting 130 grain load for the .270, and a good heavy 180 for the .30-06. Get your group size down, and keep the guns sighted in for these loads.
Then, you'll have two truly different rifles with their own merits.
What I probably wouldn't do is buy both and shoot 150 grain bullets through both.
Work up a good, high-velocity, flat shooting 130 grain load for the .270, and a good heavy 180 for the .30-06. Get your group size down, and keep the guns sighted in for these loads.
Then, you'll have two truly different rifles with their own merits.
AllAmerican
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Great advice ArmedBear!
35Rem
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REDHEADS!!
Every American needs to own a 30-06. Honestly will do anything you ask it to do.
If you want something different, get a 338-06 or even cooler is the 35 Whelen.
You should have a 35 Remington, too. And a...
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