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Hi Everyone, just getting into reloading. Im am trying to use reloading 19 power for 3006 and my books are say it needs 58 to 64 grains of power, I went to start at 62 grains and it was overflowing the casing , Using 150gr interlock sp bullets by Hornady.. So my question is how many grains of reloader 19 power are you guys using for 30-06? Thanks
 
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Welcome to the forum Safeshot10.:)
What "books" are you using? I'm just asking because the Speer Manual (#14) I have sitting in front of me says 62.0grs of Reloader 19 powder is a compressed charge when using 150gr Speer bullets.
Which brings up another question - what brand, weight and type of bullets are you trying to load? All of those things can, and often do make a difference.
Nevertheless, I don't think 62.0grs of Reloader 19 should be overflowing your 30-06 cases. Are you sure your scale is right? I don't have any Reloader 19 on hand or I would try putting 62.0 grains of it in a 30-06 case myself.
One more thing - you say you're just getting into reloading, yet you looked in some "books" that say a 30-06 "needs 58 to 64 grains" of Reloader 19 powder, so you went straight to 62grs. That doesn't sound like a real good idea to me. I've been handloading for well over 40 years (including a lot of 30-06 ammo) yet seeing as how I've never used Reloader 19 powder, I think I'd stay a little further away from maximum listed loads to start with.
 
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Need lots more info. What bullet weight? The brass matters too. Some brands will hold more powder than others. I can't find any data showing more than 62 gr of RL 19 and that is with 150 gr bullets. And RL 19 is not the best option for bullets that light. Once you move up to 180 gr or heavier bullets it is a good choice, but max loads with bullets that heavy are going to be 55-57 gr.

Regardless you need to load a few rounds near the lower end of the spectrum, shoot them and see how they work out. Then you can load a few more with a bit more powder. I generally go up no more than 1/2 gr at a time. And without a chronograph I wouldn't go above mid level loads. You don't need to be starting that close to a max load. 62 gr is over max according to some of my sources.
 
Which manual are you using? What bullet weight are you using?
the online Alliant guide shows 58 grains of Reloader19 for a 165 gn bullet. That's the MAX load for that bullet weight.
I suggest you study your manual(s) a more until you understand the process better. We're all here to help. Safety first, friend.
 
.308 Norma said:
Welcome to the forum Safeshot10.:)
What "books" are you using? I'm just asking because the Speer Manual (#14) I have sitting in front of me says 62.0grs of Reloader 19 powder is a compressed charge when using 150gr Speer bullets.
Which brings up another question - what brand, weight and type of bullets are you trying to load. All of those things can, and often do make a difference.
Nevertheless, I don't think 62.0grs of Reloader 19 should be overflowing your 30-06 cases. Are you sure your scale is right? I don't have any Reloader 19 on hand or I would try putting 62.0 grains of it in a 30-06 case myself.
One more thing - you say you're just getting into reloading, yet you looked in some "books" that say a 30-06 "needs 58 to 64 grains" of Reloader 19 powder, so you went straight to 62grs. That doesn't sound like a real good idea to me. I've been handloading for well over 40 years (including a lot of 30-06 ammo) yet seeing as how I've never used Reloader 19 powder, I think I'd stay a little further away from maximum listed loads to start with.
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Im using the lyman 50th edititon
150 gr sp interlock hornady bullet
 
jmr40 said:
Need lots more info. What bullet weight? The brass matters too. Some brands will hold more powder than others. I can't find any data showing more than 62 gr of RL 19 and that is with 150 gr bullets. And RL 19 is not the best option for bullets that light. Once you move up to 180 gr or heavier bullets it is a good choice, but max loads with bullets that heavy are going to be 55-57 gr.

Regardless you need to load a few rounds near the lower end of the spectrum, shoot them and see how they work out. Then you can load a few more with a bit more powder. I generally go up no more than 1/2 gr at a time. And without a chronograph I wouldn't go above mid level loads. You don't need to be starting that close to a max load. 62 gr is over max according to some of my sources.
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Im using the lyman 50th edititon
150 gr sp interlock hornady bullet
 
Welcome aboard safeshot10. As others have said, please provide some more information about what exactly you are loading. I'm a relatively new reloader myself, so I won't dive into details about what I "think" you should do. There are many friendly members on here that have been handloading for longer than I have been alive and they are willing to share knowledge and help you be safe and successful.

The one thing I will ask is that you please DO NOT simply pick a charge weight in the middle or upper end of the range and start there. Many times the load data in manuals is determined using "universal receivers" or other testing fixtures and not an actual firearm like you or I would own. What was found to be a safe maximum load in their testing could be way out of bounds for some of us. Especially when dealing with a cartridge that has been around for over 100 years, there are simply too many variables to start anywhere but the starting load.

Edited to add: The Lyman 50th does show 58.5 - 64.3 grains of RL19 with the max being a compressed charge. Lee's modern reloading 2nd edition shows 54.6 - 62.0 grains as the range, but interestingly does not indicate 62 grains as being compressed. I also checked Hornady's 10th edition but unfortunately it does not include RL19 for that bullet.
 
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Safeshot10 said:
Im using the lyman 50th edititon
150 gr sp interlock hornady bullet
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jmr40 said:
And RL 19 is not the best option for bullets that light. Once you move up to 180 gr or heavier bullets it is a good choice, but max loads with bullets that heavy are going to be 55-57 gr.
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Like I said, I have never used RL 19. But if I had to guess, I'd guess jmr40 is right about RL 19 not being the "best option" for bullets that light. Even my newest (10th Edition) Hornady Manual itself doesn't list 30-06 loads using RL 19 powder until the bullet weights are 180gr and heavier - 180 to 220 grains.
 
Safeshot10 said:
Hi Everyone, just getting into reloading. Im am trying to use reloading 19 power for 3006 and my books are say it needs 58 to 64 grains of power, I went to start at 62 grains and it was overflowing the casing , Using 150gr interlock sp bullets by Hornady.. So my question is how many grains of reloader 19 power are you guys using for 30-06? Thanks
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Do you have a 55 gr 223 bullet you can weigh with your scale? Or any thing close to 60 grains that you know the weight of.
 
Phantom 309 said:
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but that picture shows data for 30-06 Ackley Improved, which I THINK has a larger case volume
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You are RIGHT Phantom 308 - that's load data for a 30-06 A.I.!:eek:
Safeshot10, you haven't been using load data for the 30-06 A.I., have you? A 30-06 A.I. is not the same as a 30-06 Springfield - a 30-06 A.I. has a greater case capacity and will hold more powder. I think that was the idea behind the development of all of the Ackley Improved cartridges. And trying to load a 30-06 Springfield to 30-06 A.I. specs is not only futile, but probably dangerous as well.
 
I don't see AI in that pic, the page I see here is labeled 30-06 Springfield 150-155 grain bullets. but even so, the charge data on this page are nowhere near as high those stated in OP.
 
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I don't see AI in that pic, the page I see here is labeled 30-06 Springfield 150-155 grain bullets. but even so, the charge data on this page are nowhere near as high those stated in OP.
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The post was quickly edited and corrected. But it was a good example to be diligent and double, triple, and quadruple check the data you are using as a small oversight can have serious consequences.
 
I checked 4 different books and they listed loads from 57-64.3 gr. I loaded new PMC brass with 62gr and it was 3/4 of the way up into the neck. It would be a compressed load at 62gr. If the OP's case overflowed he needs to get some check weights and make sure that his scale is calibrated. There is a starting load listed. Please use it and work up. Sometimes your lighter loads are more accurate. I learned a long time ago that if I wanted magnum performance to buy a magnum.
 
rdnktrkr said:
I wonder if he is using a digital scale and has it on grams instead of grains, just a thought
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HA! Never had that happen! Change to grams, put weight on scale, mentally note number, replace pan, zero scale, punch in charge, hit dispense, inspect empty case, try to figure out why trickler is still running like a mouse on a wheel- HOLY POWDER! :eek:
Don’t forget to switch back to GR ;).

I’ve never actually charge a case by mistake with grams but i have defiantly missed the changing back to grains part lol.
 
I don't have a Lyman 50th edition but this Lyman 48th edition shows the following for 30-06 Springfield cartridge, 150 grain jacketed soft point bullet, and Reloder 19 (abbreviated RX19) powder load data.

http://marvinstuart.com/firearm/Manuals/Reloading/Reloading Manuals/

START LOAD GRAINS 58.0

MAX LOAD GRAINS 64.3+ - the plus sign (+) indicates a compressed load

What was your experience with the 58.5 grains START LOAD? This is where you should START LOAD.
 
South Prairie Jim said:
Agreed “
I think the problem is elsewhere (ie scale confusion or brass weirdness..)
Question:
Why do new to reloader people always start with powder and old farts always start with measuring of the chamber, die selection and brass prep?
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Guess I'm the exception to your perception.
 
If you look at five manuals, you are going to see five different starting and maximum loads. There is often information available on line as to start and max loads from bullet and powder manufacturers.

I would use the Berger method (posted at its site) and then narrow it down from there.
 
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