30-06 vs 308: Where are both Superior?

[Random 8]

You know, the greater movement required to get out of the way of the bolt on a 30-06 is more due to inadequate trigger pull distances on commercial rifles. Recently I measured a number of my vintage military bolt actions. The straight grip 03 was 12.5 inches, M1910 Chilean, was 13 inches. Surprisingly the M96 was 14 inches. These are the distances for WW1 rifles and 13 inch trigger pulls are common on modern stocks. People have grown longer and it is my opinion, stock lengths are too short.

After a decade of shooting small bore prone, with its adjustable stocks, I have come to the conclusion I want a 14 inch to 14 1/4 inch trigger pull. When I made this rifle, I ordered a stock with a 14 inch trigger pull, and working the bolt does not require me to roll the rifle around, because the bolt won't hit me in the eye.

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I added one half inch spacer to make this 1950's rifle have a 14.0 inch pull

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added spacers to this buttstock to make it 14 inches

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These spacers are wood salvaged from pallets! I know the MKIV buttstock looks horrible and unfinished, but it is functional. As Quinn Moore said "Do you want to shoot your rifle or make love to it?"

With a longer trigger pull, me being further from the bolt, any difference in speed to rack a bolt, either long action or short, is inconsequential.

All depends on your anatomy. I've got high cheek bones and relatively short arms despite being 6'1. On a long action, my bolt hand smacks me in the cheek, on a short, it just clears. Any longer LOP is too long for me.

 

[Buzznrose]

The .30-06 has much more irrational nostalgia, although the .308 has its fair share. Both are overrated for nearly all applications that stress cartridge capability at all (i.e. not hunting white tails in timber) as their bore is undesirably large.

LOL! I’d be willing to bet money that excluding the 30-30, no smokeless cartridge has killed half as many game animals on this continent as the “overrated ought six”

 

[Llama Bob]

And McDonald's has sold the most hamburgers. They're still grey and pasty and taste only vaguely like a cow was involved. Popular is not the same as good.

 

[Slamfire]

All depends on your anatomy. I've got high cheek bones and relatively short arms despite being 6'1. On a long action, my bolt hand smacks me in the cheek, on a short, it just clears. Any longer LOP is too long for me.

You know, when I buy long sleeved shirts in my neck size, the shirt sleeves are an inch longer than mine. Lets not compare waist lines, I am in the dreadnought class! I don't know if my arms are longer or shorter than usually. It took decades before I figured out that stock lengths were too short for moderns, (or at least me!) they all seem to be based on WW2 or earlier average men.

 

[Huntolive]

Well this is definitely been fun

I'm so glad I got all this started and that everybody is safe and staying home and not out doing anything important LOL

And let's add to that:
GINGER all the way

And now to really pick a fight neither Ford nor Chevy: Toyota

Thanks for everybody's fun and informative replies now I got to go to sleep getting up at 4:45 for turkey hunting
And to get us all back down to earth:
I guess all anybody really needs is a 12-gauge shotgun, a 300 Win Mag and a 44 Magnum

 

[Huntolive]

If those were the only three guns I own I probably could have afforded to buy 500 acres of private hunting land

 

[mustanger98]

I think Ginger wouldn't have been too flipped over the Toyota, and had she not spent 15 years on that island, she'd have spent so much of your disposable income you'd have had none for guns or hunting land.

 

[Robert]

Well, looks like we are done here.