R.W.Dale
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It looks like the polling is surprisingly even.
Which says a lot for this rounds future with such a broad range of use and appeal
Which says a lot for this rounds future with such a broad range of use and appeal
The second and what I'm noticing is gaining in popularity recently is Hunters shooting the cartridge as a modern AR friendly 30-30
7.62x39mm is much more similar to .30-30 Win. than .300BLK is. As some one who has built a AR pistol in it, 7.62x39mm is pleasantly AR friendly, even if taking oddly shaped magazines.
Take it from me. 300 blk isn't THAT different from it performance wise, doubly so when compared to milktoast domestic under loaded factory x39 ammunition.
Correct.
From Advanced Armament's design criteria for the 300 BLK.
"Full power 115-125 grain ammunition matches the ballistics of the 7.62x39mm AK, and eclipses 5.56mm with much higher-mass projectiles for a more dramatic effect on the target. Or choose subsonic cartridges for optimal use with a sound suppressor - 220 grain Sierra OTM (open-tip match) bullets vastly outperforms a 9mm MP5-SD in penetration and long range accuracy."
Here is their web site on the 300 BLK.
http://300aacblackout.com
As someone who has build an ar Rifle in 7.62x39 I can tell you it's absolutely not ar friendly.
I don't care whom you source 7.63x39 mags from or what their stated capacity is they're reliably a 6-8 shot proposition at best
I know more about what. 7.62x 39 is capable of than just about anyone here. I've had a 26" barreled bench rifle in the caliber, I've wildcatted it, and I've used it on deer and coyote out to. 300yds.
Take it from me. 300 blk isn't THAT different from it performance wise, doubly so when compared to milktoast domestic under loaded factory x39 ammunition.
That is because you left off the "Not interested in using this round" option.It looks like the polling is surprisingly even.
Which says a lot for this rounds future with such a broad range of use and appeal
Here's some of my own personal 7.62x39 data to support this.
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-409365.html
Yes good Russian steel cased ammo is faster but what does that gain you with what could only be described as a primitive bullet. Domestic 7.62x39 gets you better bullets but like all "mm" cartridges loaded by American firms it's laughably under loaded.
I ordered a 10.5" Barrel from MAS defense here and built my own little AR pistol tennis ball thing.
I don't care whom you source 7.63x39 mags from or what their stated capacity is they're reliably a 6-8 shot proposition at best
Arguing about ~100-150 fps differences in different barrels is pointless, regardless of length.From a 16" "paratrooper" sks Remington 125g SP 7.62x39 went 2224 FPS. This is over 100 fps SLOWER than the rem 125g OTM load shooting times tested above.
I think people under-state the value of the round, particularly in the supersonic loading. It seems that it has plenty of power out to ranges that are practical for most hunting needs and firing range lengths, carries far more energy out to said ranges than a comparable 5.56 and still retains a huge breadth in speed, energy and sound loadings.
Further, albeit with only a few shots taken for function checking in my BLK with super and sub, there is something smooth and soft about the feel of the round. I was able to do a bit of a controlled experiment because I built two identical AR's, the only difference being the barrel/muzzle-device and when shooting them back to back the 300 BLK was a real joy.
I don't know how many people who pass judgement on the round have actually shot it but it seems like a case where it's more than the charts and graphs indicate.
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