Ash_J_Williams
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This is a gun. My gun too.
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.32 S&W Long Fans?
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What... is it..?
Ash_J_Williams
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You'll find one man. It just takes time. The triple gun set is a cool thing to strive for. These three sisters are the jewels of my collection IMO. I only wish they made a K44 Masterpiece, man that would have been cool.
I'm not familiar enough to know those 3 models and calibers. .22, .32 S&W Long, and .38Sp?
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Ash:
S&W K22, K32, and K38.
S&W K22, K32, and K38.
I have seen on several threads that shooting Aquila .32 long ammo caused severe barrel leading. Speeds, when listed, were under 700 fps. Why does this happen and has anyone had this problem? Cleaning put a marliin rifle does not sound like fun. Early thanks for help. Have fun and bangaway.
It's probably a function of bullet size (too small a diameter allows gas blowby and gas cutting) alloy used, and insufficient lube. I haven't tried the aguilla ammo myself, so I can't say which one (or what combination) is the culprit, but it is certainly one or more of those issues.
I tend to find my handloads to be more accurate than any factory offerings, that seems to be especially true when I compare my handloads to inexpensive handgun ammunition. I wish you luck!
I tend to find my handloads to be more accurate than any factory offerings, that seems to be especially true when I compare my handloads to inexpensive handgun ammunition. I wish you luck!
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I'll second the Aguila leading problem. I tried them as cheap fodder in my S&W Model 431. Not only did it lead the barrel, but it left nasty rings in the cylinders that took me multiple cleanings with a bronze brush to get out.
oldfortyfiveauto
You obviously liked the .327 bh as you got more .32's however how accurate is it? What do you like aboyt the bh or don't like. Sure looks well made and heavy even with 8 holes in it. Do you shot 32 longs or mags in it? How do these do? Thanks for any info. Have fun and bangaway.
You obviously liked the .327 bh as you got more .32's however how accurate is it? What do you like aboyt the bh or don't like. Sure looks well made and heavy even with 8 holes in it. Do you shot 32 longs or mags in it? How do these do? Thanks for any info. Have fun and bangaway.
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That's called the 2nd Finger Rest - it gets your middle finger out from behind the trigger guard and is supposed to keep recoil from wacking that finger and help promote accuracy. H&R first used it in 1932 on their SPORTSMAN revolver series.
I like to take this old Colt New Police out for a spin now and then.
This Single Six and SP101 are chambered in .32 H&R, but mostly I use .32 S&W Long in them.
This little Colt New Pocket is also fun to shoot. But it`s chambered in .32 Long (& Short) Colt instead of .32 S&W Long.
This Single Six and SP101 are chambered in .32 H&R, but mostly I use .32 S&W Long in them.
This little Colt New Pocket is also fun to shoot. But it`s chambered in .32 Long (& Short) Colt instead of .32 S&W Long.
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The Blackhawk will do quarter size groups at 25yds with cast bullets. What I've found with the 32's is pretty much every thing shoots well.
PYRO "Has anyone tried Fiocchi's .32 S&W-L FMJ bullets?"
i have an order in for these rounds but its a long term backorder and they keep pushing ahead the expected availability date. i want to use them for the smith and wesson airlite 32 H&R Magnum for practice because you cant use anything abrasive on the scandium cylinders to clean them which means avoidance of lead bullets.
i have an order in for these rounds but its a long term backorder and they keep pushing ahead the expected availability date. i want to use them for the smith and wesson airlite 32 H&R Magnum for practice because you cant use anything abrasive on the scandium cylinders to clean them which means avoidance of lead bullets.
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My 632 Pro got it's own set of 60 Pro grips. Works great with the HKS #32-J speedloaders leftover from my .32 H&RM SP101 days. My 94-96gr LRNFP .32 S&WL loads, also leftovers, hit ~ 2" low from 7-12 yd, now that I know the 'proper' sight picture - but group tight. It's 'on the money' with the 115gr Gold Dots in .327 Federal Magnum. A bit pricey, but a brand new model. Heck, it was almost as much as the only 16 I've ever seen used!
I did find an NEF R73 ~$200 locally... have to think about that as parts would be a real pain. I want a 'real' .32 S&WL revolver, but the day of the beater old Police Positive Specials has passed. They are all 'collectable' now... with prices to match. Maybe a 16 will fall from the sky...
At least I have a pocket .32 now...
Stainz
I did find an NEF R73 ~$200 locally... have to think about that as parts would be a real pain. I want a 'real' .32 S&WL revolver, but the day of the beater old Police Positive Specials has passed. They are all 'collectable' now... with prices to match. Maybe a 16 will fall from the sky...
At least I have a pocket .32 now...
Stainz
tarus .32
I have heard that Tarus is making a look alike .32 cal kit gun. Would this then be similar to a smith model 16? Any one shoot a .32 tarus and is it a bad gun like don't work, shoots poorly, breaks etc? I have seen posts saying tarus makes crummy guns. Never had a tarus and cant afford 16 smith. What say any body?
I have heard that Tarus is making a look alike .32 cal kit gun. Would this then be similar to a smith model 16? Any one shoot a .32 tarus and is it a bad gun like don't work, shoots poorly, breaks etc? I have seen posts saying tarus makes crummy guns. Never had a tarus and cant afford 16 smith. What say any body?
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If you can find one, and the price is reasonable, buy it. It's not a Smith, but it's nice, and shoots well.
hard cast bullets
Mastercast bullets offer .32 cal. heads in 20 bhn. I think these would be too hard to either expand at 32 long or mag vels or grip the barrel lands. MCB also offers 14 bhn heads. Any one use these bullets or some of this hardness in long, mag, or .327 shells? Thank you for any help. Have fun and bangaway.
Mastercast bullets offer .32 cal. heads in 20 bhn. I think these would be too hard to either expand at 32 long or mag vels or grip the barrel lands. MCB also offers 14 bhn heads. Any one use these bullets or some of this hardness in long, mag, or .327 shells? Thank you for any help. Have fun and bangaway.
Bangaway, Sorry for the late reply to your questions.
I have both versions of the Taurus .32 kit gun. The Taurus kit guns are models 74 and 741. The Taurus guns that more closely matching the model 16 in size are the models 76 and 761.
The Taurus model 74 has adjustable sights, 3" barrel chambered in 32 long and made of blued steel. The model 741 is stainless steel version with full underlug barrel, adjustable sights, chambered in 32 magnum, and available with 3 or 4" barrels. As far as I know, both models are out of production. The model 74 was produced in the 70's and the model 741 was introduced in the 90's. My model 741 is a constant companion when I go to the woods, it is handy, deadly accurate, and being stainless steel, easy to care for.
The model 731 is a more recent version, with 2 or 3" barrels, but fixed sights. The 731 was chambered in either .32 H&R magnum, or 327 Federal. It may still be in production.
The Taurus models 76 and 761 were both blued steel, built on the larger frame (K-frame sized) with 6" barrels (all the ones I've seen anyways) one was chambered in 32 long, the other in 32 H&R magnum. They are out of production, and have been for some time. They were produced concurrently, so I don't recall which model number corresponds to which caliber.
As for Cast bullets. I prefer my .32 bullets to be pretty darn soft. I tend to keep velocities at or below 1400 FPS, and I find that a properly sized bullet of a soft alloy is the most accurate through any of my revolvers. The alloy I use for .32's (and most handgun bullets for that matter) measures BHN 8.5-BHN 10. Not to say that a harder alloy couldn't work, but it certainly isn't needed. Fit is KING when it comes to lead bullets. undersized throats or a constricted forcing cone can wreak havoc on revolver accuracy. You want your throats to be .001"-.002" larger than your groove diameter, and size the lead bullets to match the throat. I the forcing cone is restricted, the only real solution is lapping.
I have both versions of the Taurus .32 kit gun. The Taurus kit guns are models 74 and 741. The Taurus guns that more closely matching the model 16 in size are the models 76 and 761.
The Taurus model 74 has adjustable sights, 3" barrel chambered in 32 long and made of blued steel. The model 741 is stainless steel version with full underlug barrel, adjustable sights, chambered in 32 magnum, and available with 3 or 4" barrels. As far as I know, both models are out of production. The model 74 was produced in the 70's and the model 741 was introduced in the 90's. My model 741 is a constant companion when I go to the woods, it is handy, deadly accurate, and being stainless steel, easy to care for.
The model 731 is a more recent version, with 2 or 3" barrels, but fixed sights. The 731 was chambered in either .32 H&R magnum, or 327 Federal. It may still be in production.
The Taurus models 76 and 761 were both blued steel, built on the larger frame (K-frame sized) with 6" barrels (all the ones I've seen anyways) one was chambered in 32 long, the other in 32 H&R magnum. They are out of production, and have been for some time. They were produced concurrently, so I don't recall which model number corresponds to which caliber.
As for Cast bullets. I prefer my .32 bullets to be pretty darn soft. I tend to keep velocities at or below 1400 FPS, and I find that a properly sized bullet of a soft alloy is the most accurate through any of my revolvers. The alloy I use for .32's (and most handgun bullets for that matter) measures BHN 8.5-BHN 10. Not to say that a harder alloy couldn't work, but it certainly isn't needed. Fit is KING when it comes to lead bullets. undersized throats or a constricted forcing cone can wreak havoc on revolver accuracy. You want your throats to be .001"-.002" larger than your groove diameter, and size the lead bullets to match the throat. I the forcing cone is restricted, the only real solution is lapping.
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