.36 vs .44 for a BP C&B revolver

[Ratdog68]

Odd?

"I'll have my own pictures showing them along with the rather dapper new owner soon...."

I thought you bought 'em for yourself?!?

Nice Pair !!

 

[BCRider]

Somehow I knew you'd be first....

Anyone HELPFUL got suggestions for a nice belt and holster set for these? I'm totally new to selecting this stuff but I'm thinking a belt with integral holster in the low slung gunfighter style on the right to aid in clearing the rather long barrel and then a slip on cross draw for the left hand pistol. Do I need to look for Remington specific holsters or will any of the longer barrel options work just fine?

I need to check on it but I understand that the US export laws do not apply to non cartridge black powder guns and parts. If this is so then I'll be buying a couple or three extra cylinders pretty soon. It would be nice to have them all loaded up other than the caps the night before and event.

Geez, at this rate can a Walker clone be far in my future?

I'm really looking forward to causing my very own "fog of war".....

 

[Voodoochile]

Talk to BigBadGun for a nice rig to complement those fine Remington copies, he does fine work & never hurts the wallet too bad.

What powder have you decided to work with?

 

[Hellgate]

I can't help you on the holster info. I shoot a strong side (left) and a crossdraw. I use Slim Jim style holsters on a belt as they are more authentic ("period correct"). They are not a Buscadero drop holster. However, from a practical standpoint a drop holster would be much easier to draw from and reholster as I hafta practically haul the hoglegs up danged near to my armpit before I can shove them forward and cut loose. So do whatcha wanna do.
My Ubertis like the Remington #10 cap and the RWS #1075.

 

[Ratdog68]

Hey BCRider !!

Make yer own !! My buddy, Andy can hook you up with everything you need to do it yourself... [email protected] and you're good to go. The friend of mine teaching me to make my bow... he made a gorgeous holster (cross draw) and gun belt. I snagged a copy of his holster pattern and will do one up myself... AFTER I finish making the show chaps for the girlfriend's daughter. Danged kid... asked me if I'd make her chaps if she won the pageant she was competing in... then went out and won Jr. Miss Rodeo Washington !! I've never made a pair of chaps, let alone SHOW chaps. Oh well... I'm learning that too.

 

[Hellgate]

Hey Ratdog,
Could you PULEEEEZE show us pictures (front AND back view) of Miss Washington Rodeo WEARIN' them chaps?

 

[Ratdog68]

Well... uhhh....

"JUNIOR" Miss Rodeo Washington JUST turned 14.

I'm sure a pic or two will have to be taken sometime along the way though.

 

[BHP FAN]

Any holster made for the 7 1/2 Colt SAA will fit your Remmies nicely.That's what I use for my 1875 clones,which are basicly the cartridge version of your pistolas.

 

[BCRider]

Well, I'm chuckling up a storm at the replies.... ESPECIALLY the pit that Hellgate dug his'self into.... even if it was unknowingly

Rattdog, while I'd love yet another in a rather full slate of hobbys and shop crafts I really don't need the time expenditure. I think that wood working, metal machining and now gunsmithing should be enough along with my other intrests that I have for designing, building and flying model airplanes, bicycle mechanics (I've got 7 of the things along with enough stuff for a few more... even lace my own wheels) and 4 actively moving motorcycles. I really can't spare the time despite being newly retired. So I think I'll just wuss out and buy a rig... for now at least.

BHP, thanks for that fitment info. I've seen a number of that option on both Ebay and other sources so I'll just go that way. Bonus is that it'll fit any cartridge SAA's I may happen across in the future. While I'm keen on the BP C&B option I'm thinking it would be good to have a cartridge SAA in .38 Spl as a backup. The .38Spl is to fit in with the reloads I'm currently buying for my S&W's and will probably soon be reloading on my own. Also the lever rifle I'm going to buy will be a .357/.38Spl. At some point I may well end up loading up .357 brass with BP to match up better with my revolvers but for now I just want to not have to get into yet another caliber.

 

[Ratdog68]

LOL...

it DID suddenly get a little quiet, didn't it?

Otay... some slack is cut and you can just miss out on the satisfaction of knowing that each and every saddle stitch holding your handmade holster will hold up so much better than any machine stitched rig ever thought of doing.

Ahhhh, yes... the fond memories of tearing down my 10-speed every winter and cleaning/tuning it all up, re-packing all the bearings, unlacing the wheels and polishin' 'em up and lacin' 'em back up again. I never did get the tune just right and had to take them in for the final truing.

 

[BHP FAN]

I'm loading my .38's with Goex 3f,at about twenty gr. with a 158 gr. cast bullet.I also load triple Seven and for a smokeless load HP38.All are Lee alox tumble lubed.I used to make tiny grease cookies of BP lube,but I discovered that if I mixed any smokeless lube with beeswax BP lubes in a shooting session,an unholy mess would result.

 

[BCRider]

YOU UNLACED YOUR WHEELS JUST TO CLEAN THEM ! ! ! ! ! !

That goes WAYYYYYY beyond just being simply analy retentive you know....

I thought I was being over the top just cleaning the spokes once a year with a toothbrush and solvent. And not even my REGULAR toothbrush.

 

[Ratdog68]

LOL No...

I was just taking good care of a hard earned bicycle that I bought myself with my paper route money. The funny part is... I loaned the bike to a friend who was without transportation... he wrecked it and walked away from it... I never saw it again.

 

[Hellgate]

OOOOOOOPS!!!! Uh, no need to take pics of the rodeo queen til she's 18. Where's that shovel? I cant see out........... Anybody up there?

 

[Ratdog68]

LOL Good answer...

You must've missed my initial "ID" of "Jr". :banghead: Anyone can make an honest mistake. Carry on.

 

[Macgille]

One of my shooting buddies had a pair of custom made 1851s for cowboy shooting. He paid through the nose for them. He had a ton of trouble shooting Cowboy. You must understand that cowboy shooting is all about speed. any misfires and you are out of competition. You will have to nitrate your paper and make paper cartridges to be competitive. Unburned paper in the cylinder and the next time you load you have a problem. There is no time to solve problems when you have to shoot a stage. One cap falling off can put you out of the competition.

I watched him struggle with his c&B guns until the frames cracked. then he went back to his Vaqueros. I shot frontiersman and duelist with my SS vaqueros and my Puma '92 and Win '97. Loved the blast and the smoke. One of the best things about shooting black powder was hearing other shooters holler "what the hell was that?" when my .45 lc boomed out. After hearing the squib loads the gamesmen were using, the full power (compressed) loads in my guns were definitely loud. One time we were shooting down into a wooded area in the early morning and after I finished the pistol targets and picked up the rifle, I couldn't see the targets. I had to wait until the smoke thinned out before shooting the rifle. Slowed me down, but it was a hoot.

Riverboat Bill Sass # 15678

 

[BCRider]

Macgille, I saw the same thing at the first monthly meet of CAS at my local club range. The breeze was so light that one of the rare guys shooting ALL black powder had to stop for a moment during his lever gun string to let the cloud meander by and expose the targets for the return string of shots. It was 10 rounds onto 5 targets up and back. I had to giggle a bit at this but it spoke more about what it was like to shoot in the old days than any of the modern smokeless folk doing their own thing.

I guess this is where the phrase "the fog of war" came from?

Watching this BP smoke show is what made me want to jump in hip deep and go with the some C&B percussion revolvers right off the bat. Chewing off more than I can swallow? Perhaps. But it'll be fun to make it work. And if I was taking it so seriously that a dropped cap and a missed shot ruins my stage then I would not have chosen this option.




But I'll probably buy a .38/.357 Vaquero or Uberti SAA for the days where one of the C&B's is acting up.....